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Ryuu96 said:

Huh? Is this directed at me? I never said Trump is better for USA's bottom line or big businesses in general, I said that he is better for media outlets though and I stand by that because, it's common sense, controversy brings clicks, controversy gives you stuff to write about. Trump is better for the media specifically because he brings in that controversy, he brings in those clicks.

The New York Times has straight up been exposed already as intentionally pushing negative coverage of Biden because he wouldn't give them an interview, Lol. Fox News and NY Post are Murdoch scum-rags so no explanation needed. Around 1-2 years ago, members of the media were straight up complaining that Biden is too boring and for Christ sakes, CNN has written over 100 articles on Biden's age recently, Lol.

The biggest lie told is that the media in America is left-wing/liberal, they aren't, they only care about one thing, that's making money, and in the business of media the best way to make money nowadays is through controversial stories, clickbait, rage-bait, etc and Trump brings that in spades, these billionaire owners don't give a shit about the public as long as they are making the money.

The change in tune by the media didn't just happen after the debate, they've been banging on about Biden's age for years now, and even before the debate they were tripping over themselves to post the most obvious nonsense, clipped videos, exaggerations, etc. Now things are different, I don't deny that, Biden is cooked, his age is definitely a problem but I guarantee you the moment Biden is swapped, the media will change to "Dems in chaos!"

Yes, Trump is trash for *most* businesses but the way media makes money is benefitted by a guy like Trump.

I don't trust them, I 100% believe that most media in America wants Trump back.

I do not think that CNN or MSNBC are left-wing, but they're not Fox News, they do more balanced coverage which does include some self reflection and self criticising, so it is natural about Biden's age come into question, and for those who have been talking about it for a long time, aren't they vindicated?

The polls have consistently underestimated Trump not the other way around, this includes the 2020 election that Biden way ahead in the polls only for him to barely edge Trump out. COVID did not help any incumbent, but even that is not around anymore to help Biden. 

I'm not oblivious to dark money influencing the media but I just don't see how them being overly critical of Biden at the moment is a problem, elections are decided on very few thousands in swing states, the guy has already lost a good chunk of these banning TikTok, not doing it to stop the genocide, high rents and sky rocketing house prices (check the date from the last 4s years), his recent debate performance, and failing to give off presidential vibes largely because of his age. The panic is justified imo but a tad late. 

I agree that the media will entertain any story that brings on the clicks, but this isn't new, surely the DNC should not have failed to anticipate this becoming an even bigger of a headache the more Biden declines and the closer we are to the elections, it's on them, this mess is theirs. 



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LurkerJ said:

This is an excellent development, I'm really excited for the labour project and the economists they're working with, but will need more than five years for these things to materialise, I could not believe that they were willing to lose so much support by taking the wrong stance on Gazza and by supporting foreign ultra right wing government.

It's good that we are now getting some correction even if it's not coming from genuine place and even if it's just for chasing votes. There is a lot to learn from for the Democrats here.



RNC's GOP platform is a Trump-inspired, all-caps scare tactic (usatoday.com)

Reads like some drunk wrote it, Lol.



The Wall has been upgraded to an Iron Dome across all of America. Grats on the next billion dollar waste.

Noticed they removed abortion, just tells me it has been hurting them too much so they're hiding their true views on it.

Straight up threat to just deport pro-Palestinian protesters...Many of which are American citizens...Where the fuck they being deported?

Ukraine not a single mention, only a vague single comment about bringing "peace" to Europe. Aka let Russia slaughter Ukraine.

Point 7 contradicts point 16 and 18.

Huge increased spending and a lot of tax cuts, smart for the budget /s.

Vague nonsense, very little actual policy detail, this is just the stupid persons version and the actual detailed version is Project 2025.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 09 July 2024



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Ryuu96 said:

RNC's GOP platform is a Trump-inspired, all-caps scare tactic (usatoday.com)

Reads like some drunk wrote it, Lol.

It's jarring how different the 2024 platform is from the 2016 platform

It's like they went from trying to appeal to college graduates to trying to appeal to 3rd graders.

Even in the best of light, a lot of this is just so pie in the sky and unhinged, it's hard to take it seriously.

Like some med student writing a pledge about how he's going to cure every disease, he'll solve the hospital's budget crisis somehow, and make the hospital run better too while he's at it. 

We're going to end inflation and prevent world war 3 boys!  

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House GOP proposes IRS funding cuts, defunding free tax filing system

Republican appropriators in the House are proposing to scale back IRS funding and to do away with the free online tax filing system that the Treasury Department recently made permanent and promised to expand to additional states.

It also reduces IRS funding for 2025 by $2.2 billion below the fiscal year 2024 level to $10.1 billion, slashing enforcement funding in particular by $2 billion.



Tonight at his rally, Trump:

—Said he told NATO allies he wouldn’t defend them against Russia
—Praised Hannibal Lecter, a fictional cannibal
—Promised to appoint a Project 2025 leader to his administration
—Promised to round up immigrants into mass detention camps
—Said he didn’t know what NATO was when he was president
—Praised the Supreme Court for giving him criminal immunity
—Promised to pardon January 6 insurrectionists
—Praised a self-described white nationalist
—Played QAnon music

This all deserves more media coverage.



I think now, no matter the reasons or blame, no matter what is true or isn't, I think I lean towards Biden should step down from re-election...He should continue the Presidency for the final 6 months but he should refuse re-election and endorse Harris...This age thing is just too much now, every single thing he does and says is under a massive microscope and every single gaffe big or small is further "evidence" of his cognitive decline, amplified tenfold while we ignore the insane shit Trump is saying/doing.

As a European, I'm mentally preparing for a Trump win and saying Europe better have plans for moving on from America, I won't give up all hope but I think Europe needs to start preparing for a future without America's support. I think whether it's Biden or Harris, it's going to be a tough win now, it's basically what you think the better poison is to fight, on the one hand, Biden's old stuff will never leave him now, every gaffe will be exploded and he will also have genuine cognitive decline moments too, these things are hard for Biden to fight off.

I've not much concern about Harris being a woman, Hillary did win the popular vote and ultimately didn't lose by much and she had like 10-20 years of media smears against her and the whole stupid "but her emails" bullshit. The thing that will be thrown against them by Republicans and the media will be that the Democrats are in chaos/disarray but I think now that would be an easier fight than the old stuff, Harris is young, vibrant, a much better debater nowadays, I think she could battle that shit off and also slam Project 2025 onto Trump.

Democrats absolutely need to avoid an open convention, it would be a fucking disaster, honestly though I think everyone has handled this fucking awful, from Biden's campaign team, to the media, to Democrat officials. They should have dealt with this shit privately and Biden should have maintained the presidency until January 2025 but say that his doctors have advised him that he physically and mentally couldn't cope for another 4 years, then Biden endorses Harris for the nomination and then Democrats shut the fuck up and all get behind her.

My fear is Biden still has a lot of fans, particularly with an old demographic and now instead of it looking like Biden is stepping down on advice from his doctors and going off into the sunset, it now looks like he has been forced out and that will upset some people, it does look like the Dems are a bit in chaos, that will be the new narrative, it should have been "I'm old as shit, I can't do this for another 4 years and so Harris is the nominee now" but once again the Democrats look like they aren't united.

If Dems do an open convention then they're fucking dumb as shit, it needs to be Biden or Harris and any Democrat demanding Biden step down better be prepared to support Harris. I don't actually think at this moment that Harris would beat Trump but I don't know if Biden can either but I do believe that Harris has a better chance than any other Democrat in 4 months. Biden can focus on his final days as president which would allow Harris to focus exclusively on campaigning instead of Biden stepping down now and shackling Harris with both the presidency and campaigning.

Harris/Cooper or Harris/Shapiro or Harris/Beshear.

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One fear I have is Democrats will be dumb and actually fight against Harris because if she takes over it will mean she will be the incumbent for 2028 and thus make it unlikely anyone will actually challenge her from the Democrat side, which would ruin some Democrats plans for 2028 which would be different if Biden remained in place as he'd be going out in 2028 either way.

Those Democrats can suck it up, boohoo, this shit is more important than your careers, unfortunately, I'm pretty sure they won't like hearing that, Democrats unlike Republicans aren't as united and there's definitely going to be some Democrats who will still think "Well, Trump winning another 4 years won't be so bad! I'll just wait until 2028!" So they'd rather Biden runs and loses rather than Harris runs and wins.

Look at the French left uniting...Do that...Don't be the Tory Party...Backstabbing and fighting for top spot.

If Biden steps down, it has to be Harris and if it's Harris, shut up and put everything you have behind her winning.