Barozi said:
Ryuu96 said:
Weird reaction, Lol. Not sure how you quantify that as well. But either way, Microsoft is Bethesda now, Bethesda is Microsoft, how long is it going to take before we stop arbitrarily separating them in a way that we don't do with individual studios? Lol.
Even if we do randomly separate them just to make a moody point, Bethesda is releasing two titles in 2025, Xbox Game Studios is releasing five and Activion-Blizzard is releasing two, of those releases, if we're talking strictly of relevancy, Call of Duty is the biggest by far, Lol. The Outer Worlds 2 is a sequel to a game played by 5m+ and Ninja Gaiden is a follow-up to a beloved IP. Gears 1 Remaster whilst disappointing it isn't Gears 2-3 as well (can blame insiders for those expectations), will likely be a big hit on Steam and PlayStation as it's the first time it is releasing there.
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Hopefully never. Have you never talked about different teams within even the same studio such as Arcane Austin and Lyon?
Why can't I talk about sub divisions?
Within a time frame of 6 months Bethesda released Indiana Jones, Oblivion and the upcoming Doom. Two of them being at least GOTY candidates. You're talking about 5 XGS releases in a year of which one is a 2nd party game (why would I even count that?), one is a remaster of a remaster and one that could still be delayed into the next year. And the two they have released this year hardly set the gaming world on fire.
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It's silly to separate them Imho, Xbox is Bethesda and Bethesda is Xbox, if Xbox didn't own Bethesda it would have been someone else, Xbox plans around Bethesda because Xbox is Bethesda now, Lol. We separate studios like Arkane Austin and Lyon in terms of them having two completely different teams but that's different from what you are doing.
'Microsoft is only relevant because an Microsoft owned studio is making it relevant' - Sure, okay, Lol.
It's like saying prior "Xbox is only relevant because of 343i, Turn 10, Mojang, Rare, Obsidian, etc...Making them relevant" I mean, see how silly that sounds? Lol. And before you say "It's different, those are individual studios, Bethesda is a publisher" a publisher is ultimately just a collection of individual studios. Xbox has owned Bethesda for 5 years now, it's about time we stop needlessly separating them.
It's like you can't count anything Bethesda does or Activision-Blizzard does for...Reasons...And using an Xbox owned studio to...Mock Xbox...
"Why would I even count that?" - Because 2nd party isn't an official term in the industry and published titles have been counted for years now but suddenly they're an issue? XGSP comes under XGS and XGSP is involved in Ninja Gaiden 2. But sure, I suppose now we're ignoring all published titles, for reasons, Lol.
"One could be delayed into the next year" - Which? Based on what? Pure speculation based on nothing aside from wanting to be pessimistic? Lol.
Those two didn't set the world on fire sure, still good games.
But I will come back to your original point of relevancy, and I will say again, if it's pure relevancy that you're after, Call of Duty beats every single game that you're talking about, Lol. Call of Duty beats Oblivion Remaster and Doom combined in relevancy, if we're strictly speaking relevancy. So I suppose we can say "Bethesda...And Activision-Blizzard are the only thing keeping Microsoft relevant"...And Minecraft
Also Forza Horizon 5 currently dominating PS store, and Sea of Thieves consistently having strong legs.
The Outer Worlds 2 is a sequel to a 5m+ seller but no shit it's not as relevant as Oblivion Remaster, one of the biggest IPs in the world, Lol.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 05 May 2025