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If they have Starfield and Redfall at TGA's then maybe, it'll be Project Belfry that is revealed and they'll save the big stuff like Hellblade 2, Contraband and unfortunately Avowed until E3 2023. Then again, Xbox and Bethesda marketing clearly don't communicate so maybe it doesn't matter if Bethesda already has big titles at TGA's.



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Finally got it done.

Save file says 98 hours.

Going to post an in-depth review later. In short: It's a great game that would have been even better if ~20 hours of unnecessary "content" was cut.

8.5/10



I finally hit 45% of Achievement completion on TrueAchievements. Now I need 143 to reach 46%. I can only imagine what I need to do to get to 50%. My issue is I try out a ton of games that come to Game Pass and end up getting 1 or 2 in some games that I end up not enjoying and never playing again. 

Thank goodness for Vampire Survivors being so much fun and having 140 Achievements. 

https://www.trueachievements.com/gamer/TrunksWD



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trunkswd said:
shikamaru317 said:

Xbox will definitely have something there. If Xbox's whole thing now is revealing games that will release only in the next 12 months, like they did at E3, then they will surely have some of their 2nd half 2023 games at The Game Awards, since all of their currently windowed games are 1st half 2023. Based on how long games have been in development for, and the scope of those projects, the games that have the best chance of making 2nd half 2023 are Hellblade 2, Project Mara, Project Belfry, Contraband, and Avowed. I can't see Xbox showing all of those on The Game Awards, some may be saved for E3 2023 unless they have a Q1 set XO23 like Ryuu has been dreaming of, but I reckon at least some of those will be on The Game Awards with gameplay trailers/demos and a 2nd half 2023 release window.

I feel like Xbox will showcase one or two games from the first half of 2023 lineup - maybe Starfield and/or Forza trailers - as well as one or two games from the second half of 2023.

Yeah, that would be my guess as well, probably 4 games from Xbox on The Game Awards. Redfall, Starfield, Project Belfry, and Hellblade 2 are probably the 4 most likely to be there:

  • Redfall pretty much has to be there since it's probably a Q1 2023 release, they'd be foolish to announce a release date for it outside of a big show honestly, that game badly needs a big marketing push since it's previous 2 E3 trailers didn't receive much attention (low view count on youtube), and Xbox's marketing for it has been pretty abysmal thus far. If they don't want a total flop on their hands, they need to show gameplay at The Game Awards and blow people away with it as the start of a big marketing push ahead of a likely March release. 
  • Starfield is their biggest release of 2023, and if it is still a 1st half 2023 release, The Game Awards is the last big show before it's release. Things like Game Developers Conference in March and PAX East in April are nowhere near big enough to host a big showcase and release date announce for a game as huge as Starfield, so unless Xbox is doing their own XO23 in Q1, they need to show Starfield and a release date at The Game Awards I think.
  • Project Belfry was originally rumored to be a late 2022 release, then it was rumored to be a 1st half 2023 release, and now it is rumored to be a 2nd half 2023 release. The game would have entered development Summer 2018 shortly after Banner Saga 3 released, meaning that it is currently sitting on 4 and a half years of development about (longer than any previous Stoic Studio game, which each received 2 years and 3 months of development or less). Surely the game is ready to reveal now, and will release in 2023 with more than double the dev time of any of their previous games.
  • Hellblade 2 has now been shown twice at The Game Awards, and while some will say that is a good reason not to make it a threepeat, I would argue that it makes logical sense to show it one last time at The Game Awards 2022 ahead of it's rumored Q4 2023 release. However, there is a chance that Xbox will decide against a threepeat of Hellblade 2 at The Game Awards, in which case I think a Contraband gameplay reveal will take the 4th slot.
Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 13 November 2022

trunkswd said:

I finally hit 45% of Achievement completion on TrueAchievements. Now I need 143 to reach 46%. I can only imagine what I need to do to get to 50%. My issue is I try out a ton of games that come to Game Pass and end up getting 1 or 2 in some games that I end up not enjoying and never playing again. 

Thank goodness for Vampire Survivors being so much fun and having 140 Achievements. 

https://www.trueachievements.com/gamer/TrunksWD

Your profile says 37.9% when I click on it.

I vaguely remember there being a discrepancy when looking at the completion percentage on a TA profile but I can't remember the reason for it....

EDIT: I just logged out to check and yeah when I click on my profile I'm at 58.0% and it says it includes only the DLC I own while it says 53.4% including all DLCs when I'm logged in. Maybe that's a personal setting?

Anyhow it takes me 380 achievements to get from 53.48% to 54% so I know how it feels. It takes me between 6 and 12 months to get an increase by 1%...

Last edited by Barozi - on 13 November 2022

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Barozi said:
trunkswd said:

I finally hit 45% of Achievement completion on TrueAchievements. Now I need 143 to reach 46%. I can only imagine what I need to do to get to 50%. My issue is I try out a ton of games that come to Game Pass and end up getting 1 or 2 in some games that I end up not enjoying and never playing again. 

Thank goodness for Vampire Survivors being so much fun and having 140 Achievements. 

https://www.trueachievements.com/gamer/TrunksWD

Your profile says 37.9% when I click on it.

I vaguely remember there being a discrepancy when looking at the completion percentage on a TA profile but I can't remember the reason for it....

EDIT: I just logged out to check and yeah when I click on my profile I'm at 58.0% and it says it includes only the DLC I own while it says 53.4% including all DLCs when I'm logged in. Maybe that's a personal setting?

Anyhow it takes me 380 achievements to get from 53.48% to 54% so I know how it feels. It takes me between 6 and 12 months to get an increase by 1%...

Interesting how it says 45% for me. As you pointed out it says "Includes Owned DLC." So that must be the difference. If I wasn't so bored with Minecraft I'd go and work on that as there are so many Achievements I don't have in it. I played thousands of hours of Java before Bedrock came out. 



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Ryuu96 said:

It took me longer than I care to admit to realize they were NOT playing Pentiment. I was like, there’s character creation?! Why is Yoda a selectable character?! Why is there a talent called Halo?!



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shikamaru317 said:
trunkswd said:

I feel like Xbox will showcase one or two games from the first half of 2023 lineup - maybe Starfield and/or Forza trailers - as well as one or two games from the second half of 2023.

Yeah, that would be my guess as well, probably 4 games from Xbox on The Game Awards. Redfall, Starfield, Project Belfry, and Hellblade 2 are probably the 4 most likely to be there:

  • Redfall pretty much has to be there since it's probably a Q1 2023 release, they'd be foolish to announce a release date for it outside of a big show honestly, that game badly needs a big marketing push since it's previous 2 E3 trailers didn't receive much attention (low view count on youtube), and Xbox's marketing for it has been pretty abysmal thus far. If they don't want a total flop on their hands, they need to show gameplay at The Game Awards and blow people away with it as the start of a big marketing push ahead of a likely March release. 
  • Starfield is their biggest release of 2023, and if it is still a 1st half 2023 release, The Game Awards is the last big show before it's release. Things like Game Developers Conference in March and PAX East in April are nowhere near big enough to host a big showcase and release date announce for a game as huge as Starfield, so unless Xbox is doing their own XO23 in Q1, they need to show Starfield and a release date at The Game Awards I think.
  • Project Belfry was originally rumored to be a late 2022 release, then it was rumored to be a 1st half 2023 release, and now it is rumored to be a 2nd half 2023 release. The game would have entered development Summer 2018 shortly after Banner Saga 3 released, meaning that it is currently sitting on 3 and a half years of development (longer than any previous Stoic Studio game, which each received 2 years and 3 months of development or less). Surely the game is ready to reveal now, and will release in 2023 with roughly double the dev time of any of their previous games.
  • Hellblade 2 has now been shown twice at The Game Awards, and while some will say that is a good reason not to make it a threepeat, I would argue that it makes logical sense to show it one last time at The Game Awards 2022 ahead of it's rumored Q4 2023 release. However, there is a chance that Xbox will decide against a threepeat of Hellblade 2 at The Game Awards, in which case I think a Contraband gameplay reveal will take the 4th slot.

Redfall does make sense to show off. It looks like a good game for the Left 4 Dead/Back 4 Blood fans and as you pointed out marketing for it has been pretty awful. The lack of synergy between the different parts of Xbox is something that needs a lot of work. 



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trunkswd said:
shikamaru317 said:

Yeah, that would be my guess as well, probably 4 games from Xbox on The Game Awards. Redfall, Starfield, Project Belfry, and Hellblade 2 are probably the 4 most likely to be there:

  • Redfall pretty much has to be there since it's probably a Q1 2023 release, they'd be foolish to announce a release date for it outside of a big show honestly, that game badly needs a big marketing push since it's previous 2 E3 trailers didn't receive much attention (low view count on youtube), and Xbox's marketingy for it has been pretty abysmal thus far. If they don't want a total flop on their hands, they need to show gameplay at The Game Awards and blow people away with it as the start of a big marketing push ahead of a likely March release. 
  • Starfield is their biggest release of 2023, and if it is still a 1st half 2023 release, The Game Awards is the last big show before it's release. Things like Game Developers Conference in March and PAX East in April are nowhere near big enough to host a big showcase and release date announce for a game as huge as Starfield, so unless Xbox is doing their own XO23 in Q1, they need to show Starfield and a release date at The Game Awards I think.
  • Project Belfry was originally rumored to be a late 2022 release, then it was rumored to be a 1st half 2023 release, and now it is rumored to be a 2nd half 2023 release. The game would have entered development Summer 2018 shortly after Banner Saga 3 released, meaning that it is currently sitting on 3 and a half years of development (longer than any previous Stoic Studio game, which each received 2 years and 3 months of development or less). Surely the game is ready to reveal now, and will release in 2023 with roughly double the dev time of any of their previous games.
  • Hellblade 2 has now been shown twice at The Game Awards, and while some will say that is a good reason not to make it a threepeat, I would argue that it makes logical sense to show it one last time at The Game Awards 2022 ahead of it's rumored Q4 2023 release. However, there is a chance that Xbox will decide against a threepeat of Hellblade 2 at The Game Awards, in which case I think a Contraband gameplay reveal will take the 4th slot.

Redfall does make sense to show off. It looks like a good game for the Left 4 Dead/Back 4 Blood fans and as you pointed out marketing for it has been pretty awful. The lack of synergy between the different parts of Xbox is something that needs a lot of work. 

That’s something else marketing really needs to clear up before release. It’s been realized through leaks that Redfall is going to be more Borderlands looter shooter than the likes of L4D and B4B. But most won’t be aware of that because how terribly the messaging has been conveyed lol 



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