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Your most anticipated upcoming Xbox RPG in 2025?

The Outer Worlds 2 2 12.50%
 
The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion remaster/remake 5 31.25%
 
Fable 6 37.50%
 
Avowed 3 18.75%
 
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Ryuu96 said:
Machiavellian said:

Its working to plan because of the narrative.  CMA is concentrating on COD which is right where MS want that conversation to go.  This FTC lawsuit gives MS a very easy win as their just way to much data they have to refute every claim and come out smelling like a rose.  It also will give them a better position with the CMA in my opinion.  MS could easily give COD a 25 year deal, who really cares if that is what you want.  COD is a easy win as long as the conversation remains on that one IP.

When I look at this, everything is working in a more best case scenarios for MS because from the way I see it, this was always going to go this way.  So if it was going to get this kind of push back, then MS want to be able to control the narrative to improve their chance of landing the deal.  If anything, things are going exactly how a big corporation like MS purchasing a huge deal like ABK would happen. 

The saving grace for MS is that they do not control nothing within the gaming space and with this deal it still will not make them the biggest company in the gaming space.  You cannot say MS will control the market when they are not the market leader.  You cannot say they will cancel games when they are willing to make any concessions.  You cannot say they will control the service space when they are not the biggest service provider, nor do they control the space after this deal.  You cannot say they will institute predator practice since they stop doing that a while ago and their competitor continue to do so with their market lead.  MS is sitting pretty at the moment because there really has not been any real conversation on their true impact at this time.

FTC is clearly not planning on going to court anytime soon (August 2023) so their goal seems obvious, either delay it long enough to make Microsoft abandon the deal or push another regulator to block the deal.

I think this puts them in a worse position with CMA, it isn't like CMA benefits from approving the deal, now CMA will know that they hold all the power and they could take down big tech, it will be a very appealing win in their eyes, and once again, if CMA blocks it, there is very little that Microsoft can do, no matter if CMA's arguments are as dumb as FTCs.

I don't think FTC would have done something this risky or stupid if they didn't have reasonable confidence that someone else is going to block as well, that is likely CMA. Sure, the CMA can get a concessional win, but I think the win against big tech is far more appealing, especially for a regulator who have lately been blocking quite a lot and showing off their power.

The FTC does this all the time, why would they care if they lose.  It's not like anyone job is on the line.  Instead, they need to appear to be strong against big corps like MS.  Just look at the arguments, it's like they are not even trying.  I highly doubt that this lawsuit means anything to any other regulatory body unless the arguments were strong enough to be used.  

I believe you fear the CMA to much but like all regulatory divisions, there is a price you can pay.  Like I said, as long as they continue to focus on COD, then the CMA is nothing to worry about.  If the narrative change then a revaluation would be on hand.  



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Machiavellian said:
Ryuu96 said:

FTC is clearly not planning on going to court anytime soon (August 2023) so their goal seems obvious, either delay it long enough to make Microsoft abandon the deal or push another regulator to block the deal.

I think this puts them in a worse position with CMA, it isn't like CMA benefits from approving the deal, now CMA will know that they hold all the power and they could take down big tech, it will be a very appealing win in their eyes, and once again, if CMA blocks it, there is very little that Microsoft can do, no matter if CMA's arguments are as dumb as FTCs.

I don't think FTC would have done something this risky or stupid if they didn't have reasonable confidence that someone else is going to block as well, that is likely CMA. Sure, the CMA can get a concessional win, but I think the win against big tech is far more appealing, especially for a regulator who have lately been blocking quite a lot and showing off their power.

The FTC does this all the time, why would they care if they lose.  It's not like anyone job is on the line.  Instead, they need to appear to be strong against big corps like MS.  Just look at the arguments, it's like they are not even trying.  I highly doubt that this lawsuit means anything to any other regulatory body unless the arguments were strong enough to be used.  

I believe you fear the CMA to much but like all regulatory divisions, there is a price you can pay.  Like I said, as long as they continue to focus on COD, then the CMA is nothing to worry about.  If the narrative change then a revaluation would be on hand.  

They aren't trying precisely because they are hoping for someone else to block the deal, that is obvious now.

Regulators can be swayed into a certain direction based on the actions of other regulators, while regulators do focus on their own area, they are still in touch with each other as well and sometimes work together to take something down. CMA also expressed very similar arguments to FTC, such as disregarding Nintendo as a competitor entirely.

If there is indeed a price you can pay, then why is CMA blocking so many deals? And why didn't Microsoft pay that to FTC? We don't know much about CMA's Phase 2 yet but their Phase 1 was pretty awful and they don't exactly need a good reason to block the deal it seems, they can now just parrot FTC's argument.

This deal entirely depends on if CMA is feeling as political as FTC...Regulators clamping down on big tech is the big thing right now. Again, FTC doesn't block deals, they get courts to block the deals, CMA blocks a deal, if you appeal, it gets sent to CAT, who then send it back to CMA who can then just block it again.

Based on CMA's Phase 1 arguments and that UK is more often than not aligned with America, and Microsoft is the master at lobbying in America but failed here, they're even less in UK, CMA doesn't care about Microsoft one bit, so it entirely depends on how Political CMA is feeling, it's a complete tossup Imo.



Yeah just screw it all, Block the deal and then MS can go and buy Nintendo since they are so irrelevant and wouldn’t hurt poor little Sony one bit since no games can be taken away from them.



Hopefully not much is delayed in 2023.

Microsoft could do with some news other than Activision-Blizzard, Lol.

Since the court case won't start until August 2023, it's very clear they are hoping CMA blocks or Microsoft abandons the deal, it likely will mean that we won't hear anything from FTC for almost a year now, it likely means I'm not going to get my juicy industry secrets cause this will never actually go to court 🥲

EC will be quiet until January and then next update in April unless they're satisfied with the concessions that Microsoft offers them, I think CMA is March, so that will be when we find out if the deal is dead or not.

It does feel a bit like, Microsoft has almost been on autopilot since this acquisition, they can't afford to do that anymore, the regulators have just about already made up their minds, time to focus on what matters to the consumers again.

Give us an X0 in February!



EspadaGrim said:

Yeah just screw it all, Block the deal and then MS can go and buy Nintendo since they are so irrelevant and wouldn’t hurt poor little Sony one bit since no games can be taken away from them.

This...Now makes me wonder...Is Nintendo a monopoly?

Lmfao.

These regulators keep disregarding Nintendo, claiming they aren't competition because they aren't part of the market, what market is Nintendo apart of and if that market only consists of Nintendo, would that mean that Nintendo monopolises that market?

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Where is Xbox Series S in the price argument? U'know, the console that is likely outselling Xbox Series X?

33. Other consoles lack the high performance of the Xbox Series X|S and PS5 consoles. For example, the Nintendo Switch, which is designed to allow portable, handheld use, necessarily sacrifices computing power, which leaves it unable to play certain games that require more advanced graphic processing. Retailing at $299.99, the Nintendo Switch is also less expensive than the Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 consoles, both priced at $499.99. While the Xbox Series S had the same retail price at launch as the Nintendo Switch, the graphical and processing capabilities of the Series S are much more aligned with the Xbox Series X and PS5 consoles. The Xbox Series S enables gamers to play the same video games as the Xbox Series X, both of which offer more graphically advanced gameplay than on the Nintendo Switch.

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Ryuu96 said:
EspadaGrim said:

Yeah just screw it all, Block the deal and then MS can go and buy Nintendo since they are so irrelevant and wouldn’t hurt poor little Sony one bit since no games can be taken away from them.

This...Now makes me wonder...Is Nintendo a monopoly?

Lmfao.

These regulators keep disregarding Nintendo, claiming they aren't competition because they aren't part of the market, what market is Nintendo apart of and if that market only consists of Nintendo, would that mean that Nintendo monopolises that market?

The child toy market. Right next to action figures, and board games. Glad I could clarify



Angelus said:
Ryuu96 said:

This...Now makes me wonder...Is Nintendo a monopoly?

Lmfao.

These regulators keep disregarding Nintendo, claiming they aren't competition because they aren't part of the market, what market is Nintendo apart of and if that market only consists of Nintendo, would that mean that Nintendo monopolises that market?

The child toy market. Right next to action figures, and board games. Glad I could clarify

You mean the fitness market, right next to gyms and mass gainer supplements.

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Ryuu96 said:
Angelus said:

The child toy market. Right next to action figures, and board games. Glad I could clarify

You mean the fitness market, right next to gyms and mass gainer supplements.

They are very flexible





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