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Spade on 31 August 2023
NobleTeam360 said:
Ryuu96 said:

I'm watching Spade's bet go back and forth here wondering who will win.

They’re going by meta (series X ) which shows an 87 atm, which is the same score as FFXVI. What happens if it ends up tying each other?

No one wins in a tie, but hopefully it won't end that way.  



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Koragg on 31 August 2023

88 is an outstanding score, sure there are a couple outliers that brings the score below 90 but it seems like we are going to have a great time with the game.



Ryuu96 on 31 August 2023
Spade said:
Ryuu96 said:

Also the slow start can't be any worse than Red Dead Redemption 2's slow start, I don't want to hear anyone complaining about Starfield's slow start who also doesn't complain about Red Dead Redemption 2's! Lmao. That start of RDR2 was something else, I'm glad I stuck with it because the story was amazing but the start was so dull for hours.

Honestly, the entire game is "slow" in terms of gameplay and never picks up in "gameplay" which is a reason why I will never replay Red Dead Redemption 2. Starfield can't be any worse than RDR2's "slowness" because the gameplay is faster paced and it actually picks up according to reviews, eventually. Plus I have plenty of time to get through a slow start, haha.

Basically, Starfield is slow at the start in both gameplay and story but eventually picks up according to reviewers but Imo, Red Dead Redemption 2 was slow in both gameplay and story and while it did pick up in story, it never picked up in gameplay, Imo. And I still loved it but yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll not mind a temporary slow start to Starfield having played something like RDR2.

Thanks to Spade for reminding me of RDR2.

I do think the inventory management complaint is odd in a Bethesda title...

No problem pimp. And yeah that game had one of the slowest starts out there. I feel the pay off was worth it with the story and ending, but FUCK...

Gameplay took itself too seriously.. the skinning animations everything... Just OCD levels of meticulous details. Took the piss. 

Rockstar always seems to get a pass though, doubt that will change. 

My God. Those skinning animations, and walking through camp, Lol.

RDR2 is a game that likes to sniff its own farts, Lol. I mean, damn it's a technical marvel and I can appreciate the level of work that the developers put into that and the technical aspects behind it all but it doesn't make for fun gameplay and it's all throughout the game.

At this stage I would prefer Red Dead Redemption as a TV Show if RDR3 has similar gameplay



shikamaru317 on 31 August 2023

The fact that Fallout 4, Bethesda's most rushed game (it only got 2.5 years of development with the full dev team after Skyrim's last DLC released) and least polished game to date, is tied at 88 opencritic with Starfield, Bethesda's least rushed and most polished game to date, tells you everything you need to know about the so-called "Xbox tax" that all Xbox exclusives have to deal with when being reviewed by critics.

On the plus side, the PC version did review 4 points higher than Fallout 4 PC on metacritic, 88 vs 84, though the Xbox version of Starfield is one point lower on Metacritic than Fallout 4 XB1, 87 vs 88.

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Drakrami on 31 August 2023
TheLegendaryBigBoss said:

88 is an outstanding score, sure there are a couple outliers that brings the score below 90 but it seems like we are going to have a great time with the game.

I am sure you will have a great time with the game. But IGN's pretty on the mark with their reviews. If they and gamespot gives it a 7, there's something wrong with the game. 



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Koragg on 31 August 2023
Drakrami said:
TheLegendaryBigBoss said:

88 is an outstanding score, sure there are a couple outliers that brings the score below 90 but it seems like we are going to have a great time with the game.

I am sure you will have a great time with the game. But IGN's pretty on the mark with their reviews. If they and gamespot gives it a 7, there's something wrong with the game. 

Never know yourself until you play the game, there are plenty of reviews on YouTube (ACG is a great reviewer) that recommend the game.



Ryuu96 on 31 August 2023
TheLegendaryBigBoss said:

88 is an outstanding score, sure there are a couple outliers that brings the score below 90 but it seems like we are going to have a great time with the game.

It is.

The 5/10 is probably knocking it quite a bit. And I don't think IGN's review matches their score but ultimately they're a few outliers and the vast majority are 8s, 9s and a lot of 10s. So there's really no reason to be upset. Plenty of titles that are widely loved are in the 80s region around Starfield's score, I'm still incredibly excited, especially since I don't think some of the criticisms will bother me.

Would have liked a 90+ but not concerned and nobody should be, it ain't going to affect sales in the slightest, and I do believe if people get past the slow start, that Starfield's popularity will grow overtime and become more appreciated than even an 88 which is still high. I don't see this going like Fallout 4 which didn't pick up at all, Lol.

Starfield's criticism is slow start which becomes great, Fallout 4's is bland all throughout, a bad story and bad ending.

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WoodenPints on 31 August 2023

My code came through and it's only 86GB download so smaller than I expected will be ready for when I finish work tomorrow.



Imaginedvl on 31 August 2023
Drakrami said:
TheLegendaryBigBoss said:

88 is an outstanding score, sure there are a couple outliers that brings the score below 90 but it seems like we are going to have a great time with the game.

I am sure you will have a great time with the game. But IGN's pretty on the mark with their reviews. If they and gamespot gives it a 7, there's something wrong with the game. 

IGN "pretty" on the mark with their reviews?...

I definitely think their review scores are ALL over the place (and I'm not the only one)... 

So the opposite can be said too; the counterargument would be that 88 Meta and IGN being below the whole average shows how they are off... 

I mean you have the right to believe IGN is on point; I definitely think the opposite when it comes to review scores. I can tell you a few games they ranked 10 that was not even close to that (and the meta is also way below) and the opposite is true (some low scores where the games are globally loved). Remember that like us, the person reviewing is expressing his/her "own" opinion, so definitely not a good start for being on mark or objective anyway :D 



Ryuu96 on 31 August 2023
Drakrami said:
TheLegendaryBigBoss said:

88 is an outstanding score, sure there are a couple outliers that brings the score below 90 but it seems like we are going to have a great time with the game.

I am sure you will have a great time with the game. But IGN's pretty on the mark with their reviews. If they and gamespot gives it a 7, there's something wrong with the game. 

No, it doesn't mean that. It simply means that 2 of the 97 reviewers believe the game is a 7/10. Some people take certain reviewers more seriously because they usually match with their personal views but that doesn't make them inherently more important than every other reviewer. In addition, the same reviewer of Starfield gave Fallout 4 a 9.5/10 and I think most Fallout 4 fans would tell you that it didn't deserve that score, Fallout 4 was widely considered a disappointment at launch.