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Reading some reviews, I'm still very excited, I think I'll love it. The main criticisms seem to be the slow start and a few frustrating gameplay systems (such as the map, inventory management, space travel). I think those things won't really bother me and it seems like once you get past that slow start, it really opens up into something special, it sounds like in particular NG+ is something great, I'm curious about that...

I think if people can stick with it past the slow start then overtime people's appreciation of it will grow more and more, the question is if they will because people's time is limited and attention spans are short, Lol. But if they do then I think we'll see a grow in appreciation for it overtime rather than what happened with Fallout 4, Lol.

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Libara said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

They did win the 2021 metacritic publisher of the year.

Thanks to Bethesda who had games release before the acquisition closed. IGN literally gave the Starfield review to a known Xbox hater and racist, it's clear what they were going for.

Huh?  What's the basis for that accusation?



Also the slow start can't be any worse than Red Dead Redemption 2's slow start, I don't want to hear anyone complaining about Starfield's slow start who also doesn't complain about Red Dead Redemption 2's! Lmao. That start of RDR2 was something else, I'm glad I stuck with it because the story was amazing but the start was so dull for hours.

Honestly, the entire game is "slow" in terms of gameplay and never picks up in "gameplay" which is a reason why I will never replay Red Dead Redemption 2. Starfield can't be any worse than RDR2's "slowness" because the gameplay is faster paced and it actually picks up according to reviews, eventually. Plus I have plenty of time to get through a slow start, haha.

Basically, Starfield is slow at the start in both gameplay and story but eventually picks up according to reviewers but Imo, Red Dead Redemption 2 was slow in both gameplay and story and while it did pick up in story, it never picked up in gameplay, Imo. And I still loved it but yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll not mind a temporary slow start to Starfield having played something like RDR2.

Thanks to Spade for reminding me of RDR2.

I do think the inventory management complaint is odd in a Bethesda title...



carlos710 said:

Mostly I believe review scores tend to be super inflated.. from all the games I have played I think I would count with one hand the ones that I would grant a 95+, let alone throw around 10's like these companies do. Also, most  major publications like IGN seems super corrupted to me, and the smaller ones always seems to be scared of looking "not cool" by not giving high scores to hyped games ( or maybe they are scared of not getting review copies anymore )

From the Bethesda games I have played the best ones were Skyrim (would have been an 85 - 90 at most for me) and Fallout 4 (around 80 for me). 

Additionally the first couple months always seems to be a bugfest for most games, and yet for some weird reason reviewers tend to ignore that. Not sure if that's the case with starfield, just talking in general about game releases nowadays

None of this is really xbox / bethesda / starfield specific btw.

Thanks for clarifying a bit :)

Those 10 are effectively out of place imo. (I mean IGN gave Death Loop 10/10 for instance and so many other weird 10s while the majority will not even go close to 7 or 8 on average) and while it is very subjective; I never understood it. 

My guess is that they give a 10 because of hype, fanboyism, money, or even hate/dislike. So I never take those scores very seriously and personally, I do not care whatsoever about the score to make a decision about buying or playing a game.

One sure thing is that; based on what people were saying about Starfield (before the embargo); I def. did not expect a 7 from IGN :D
And reading it; I cannot understand how he came up with that score (esp. when you match it to his verdict text)



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coolbeans said:
Libara said:

Thanks to Bethesda who had games release before the acquisition closed. IGN literally gave the Starfield review to a known Xbox hater and racist, it's clear what they were going for.

Huh?  What's the basis for that accusation?

The hater, I get it (he really voiced a lot of stuff against Microsoft or Xbox in general on another podcast).

But the racist part :) ? I have no clue



Genuinely don't know how to play it now, do I just rush the main story?



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4..../....4?

What a weird scoring system, Lol.



Ryuu96 said:

Also the slow start can't be any worse than Red Dead Redemption 2's slow start, I don't want to hear anyone complaining about Starfield's slow start who also doesn't complain about Red Dead Redemption 2's! Lmao. That start of RDR2 was something else, I'm glad I stuck with it because the story was amazing but the start was so dull for hours.

Honestly, the entire game is "slow" in terms of gameplay and never picks up in "gameplay" which is a reason why I will never replay Red Dead Redemption 2. Starfield can't be any worse than RDR2's "slowness" because the gameplay is faster paced and it actually picks up according to reviews, eventually. Plus I have plenty of time to get through a slow start, haha.

Basically, Starfield is slow at the start in both gameplay and story but eventually picks up according to reviewers but Imo, Red Dead Redemption 2 was slow in both gameplay and story and while it did pick up in story, it never picked up in gameplay, Imo. And I still loved it but yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll not mind a temporary slow start to Starfield having played something like RDR2.

Thanks to Spade for reminding me of RDR2.

I do think the inventory management complaint is odd in a Bethesda title...

RDR (first one ) it's actually another good example for me about inflated reviews. I just recently played the game for the first time and I could not believe how this game got such universal praise. Not sure if I would have granted this game anything more than a 75 from my side. And yes, may main grip with RDR was that looks so.. uninteresting at the beginning that I see no reason why to invest more time in this game when there are so many games to play. 

I also had already bought RDR 2 months ago but it's very likely that I never play it. 



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carlos710 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Also the slow start can't be any worse than Red Dead Redemption 2's slow start, I don't want to hear anyone complaining about Starfield's slow start who also doesn't complain about Red Dead Redemption 2's! Lmao. That start of RDR2 was something else, I'm glad I stuck with it because the story was amazing but the start was so dull for hours.

Honestly, the entire game is "slow" in terms of gameplay and never picks up in "gameplay" which is a reason why I will never replay Red Dead Redemption 2. Starfield can't be any worse than RDR2's "slowness" because the gameplay is faster paced and it actually picks up according to reviews, eventually. Plus I have plenty of time to get through a slow start, haha.

Basically, Starfield is slow at the start in both gameplay and story but eventually picks up according to reviewers but Imo, Red Dead Redemption 2 was slow in both gameplay and story and while it did pick up in story, it never picked up in gameplay, Imo. And I still loved it but yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll not mind a temporary slow start to Starfield having played something like RDR2.

Thanks to Spade for reminding me of RDR2.

I do think the inventory management complaint is odd in a Bethesda title...

RDR (first one ) it's actually another good example for me about inflated reviews. I just recently played the game for the first time and I could not believe how this game got such universal praise. Not sure if I would have granted this game anything more than a 75 from my side. And yes, may main grip with RDR was that looks so.. uninteresting at the beginning that I see no reason why to invest more time in this game when there are so many games to play. 

I also had already bought RDR 2 months ago but it's very likely that I never play it. 

Do you mean the setting looks uninteresting? I like cowboy western stuff so that didn't bother me. I'm not really a fan of something like Fallout's setting though, all dead and depressing, Lol. I like the vibrant Elder Scrolls settings. But as for RDR 1/2, I would actually rate them highly still, I think around 9/10.

But RDR2...These complaints about Starfield's slowness while RDR2 received universal praise, I don't know...Maybe I'm forgetting how RDR1 played but I'm in a weird spot with RDR2...It's a game which I can appreciate - story wise, technically, the world is alive and interesting but the gameplay is so fucking slow, it's like I'm walking through molasses for most of the game.

And so I would never want to replay RDR2...I know the story and that's good enough for me, I have no interest in replaying the exact same story in that slow ass gameplay, which Imo never becomes any faster, Lol. Every activity just feels like they're trying too hard to be realistic, that was a nice technical achievement but doesn't make for fun gameplay. The story even is practically nothing going on for the first few hours.