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Russia is running very low on Multiple Rocket Launchers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Gd2hCp0EY

Of note that there aren't any TOS-1 or TOS-2 left, and that the second-largest base in terms of MRLS has a year-old picture as latest information, so there may be much less left at that base. More than half of the bases where there were MLRS before the war special military operation don't have any anymore. Also the newer Tornado and Uragan versions, which are in theory distinct models, are counted towards their base models.

Also keep in mind that there are over 1000 in active service, so it will take a while before Russia truly runs out of these systems. But it's getting harder and harder to replace losses, especially since most "produced" vehicles are just refurbished and/or upgraded reserve units.

Ryuu96 said:

Meanwhile the West is too scared to send trainers to Ukraine, actually, it's even worse than that, the West is too scared to even shoot down Russian missiles and drones violating their own airspace let alone sending trainers to Ukraine.

North Korea could also be a source of vehicles to send to the front, either as is or upgraded to newer standards.

For instance, North Korea has over 2000 T54/55 and T62 that Russia could use, plus several hundreds older BMP models and an unknown number of artillery systems and MRLS. North Korea would probably gladly trade at least some of those away for license production of newer models and technologies plus a constant supply of food.



BFR said:

7000 vehicles... did the crews arrive in their in Ladas and the officials then thought "eh, let's count them to the total"?



Orbán Threatens to Mess With Ukraine Aid to Help Trump – POLITICO



Orban must be kicked out of the EU and NATO, also it is crazy how Trump still encourages Russia to attack more of Eastern Europe, despite every single bordering county investing 2% and beyond GDP in their army

truly worrying how Trump is consistently leading betting odds, those people really know what they are talking about

any realistic prediction on whether Ukrainian sovereighty can survive a Trump presidency?
is there any chance at all that the AFU can keep defending the country with European and domestic production alone?



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

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dark_gh0st_b0y said:

Orban must be kicked out of the EU and NATO, also it is crazy how Trump still encourages Russia to attack more of Eastern Europe, despite every single bordering county investing 2% and beyond GDP in their army

truly worrying how Trump is consistently leading betting odds, those people really know what they are talking about

any realistic prediction on whether Ukrainian sovereighty can survive a Trump presidency?
is there any chance at all that the AFU can keep defending the country with European and domestic production alone?

The problem with this is that there isn't any system in either to kick out members. They only can leave themselves if they want to (like the UK did with the EU), but they can't get kicked out.



I just googled the dude Lőrinc Mészáros who was mentioned a few days ago here in the thread as good friend of Orban. A German politician mentioned that guy in the European Parliament and he just got rich because of Orban transferring all the EU money to him and it's astonishing to me how Hungary does still even get a single cent from the EU.

That dude was broke and is now the richest person in Hungary. He pretty much increased 10-100x his wealth in single years the moment Orban got President and gave him all the EU money for his companies.

But not only that, he also buys pretty much every TV and Radio station in Hungary and all the newspapers as well with the money he has now.

EU is not only looking at a dictatorship forming in an EU country but they actively pay for it every year.

And on top of that EU let Hungary block decisions of the whole EU? WTF is the EU for a stupid concept with their "one country can block decisions" rule lol.

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well i'm back..... view this for a quick chuckle

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9546490



Ryuu96 said:

Hmm...Grain of salt, I don't believe the F16's which Ukraine has, have the missiles required to shoot down F-34s without getting into dangerously close range. Unless Ukraine has stuff which we don't know about or just took a big risk.

Would be funny, as the Su-34 is more modern than the F-16 and these are brand new pilots to the F-16.

first blood!



crissindahouse said:

I just googled the dude LÅ‘rinc Mészáros who was mentioned a few days ago here in the thread as good friend of Orban. A German politician mentioned that guy in the European Parliament and he just got rich because of Orban transferring all the EU money to him and it's astonishing to me how Hungary does still even get a single cent from the EU.

That dude was broke and is now the richest person in Hungary. He pretty much increased 10-100x his wealth in single years the moment Orban got President and gave him all the EU money for his companies.

But not only that, he also buys pretty much every TV and Radio station in Hungary and all the newspapers as well with the money he has now.

EU is not only looking at a dictatorship forming in an EU country but they actively pay for it every year.

And on top of that EU let Hungary block decisions of the whole EU? WTF is the EU for a stupid concept with their "one country can block decisions" rule lol.

It's really off kilter huh?  That's a big indication that something is terribly broken in the system.  And i've seen many comments from hungarians online who say that they are very tired of Orban and want him out.