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So Russia are saying the cruiser is still afloat (and will be towed to shore) whilst Ukraine are saying it started sinking. Technically a sinking ship is still afloat until such a time that it is sunk. Someone said the weather in the Black Sea is preventing satellites from getting a proper look so may be a while before we know for sure.

Ryuu96 - any of your twitter sources giving any better indication at this time?



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Ryuu96 said:

It's points like this that are what make the specifics around this bit less black and white. Crimea is generally pro-Russian but the referendum looks really suspects given Russia seized the territory then ran the referendum. You can't really buy that it was run fairly with the possibility that an option to remain part of Ukraine would have been allowed to win. Such referendums can be lopsided in the result (see South Sudan independence referendum or Falklands referendum).



Ryuu96 said:

Should ask her if she wants to give some parts of France away because, you know, they weren't always France

And damn, that armored vehicle looks pretty cool apart from how good it is (which I don't know) 



For the love of God, I hope that the French are not foolish enough to elect a Putin sympathizer like Marine Le Pen to be their president.



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Me reading about the fire on the Moskva:



SUCK IT

--Poseidon



Yes! The fire won!



Ryuu96 said:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"When the cruiser Moskva was towed to the port of destination due to damage to the hull received during the fire from the detonation of ammunition, the ship lost stability. In the conditions of stormy sea waves, the ship sank," the military department said.

The Ministry of Defense reported that the cruiser "Moskva" sank during towing - Army and Defense Industry - TASS

Russian Warship, Go Fuck Yourself!

https://youtu.be/n4isBMEnAK4?t=6



Nice. Those guys from the Snake Island (they were still alive right?) must be laughing their asses off right now.