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Lift the fucking restrictions.



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Now there were the first reports about Kharkiv - a strike on the city, on an obvious civilian object: a shopping centre, a construction hypermarket. It was Saturday afternoon. One of the largest centres - there were many employees and visitors inside. Now the whole place is on fire. All the necessary services have arrived: The State Emergency Service of Ukraine, medical services, local authorities, police. Everyone is fighting for every life.

This attack on Kharkiv is another manifestation of Russian madness. There is no other way to describe it. Only madmen like Putin are capable of killing and terrorising people in such a vile manner. We already know that there are wounded and dead. My condolences to the families and friends. Everyone who has suffered will be provided with the necessary assistance.

When we tell the leaders of the world that Ukraine needs sufficient air defence protection, when we say that we need real determination to allow us to protect the lives of our people in the most effective way possible, so that Russian terrorists cannot even come close to our borders, we are talking about how to literally prevent such terrorist attacks. I thank the leaders who really support us, who really see that every decision to support Ukraine is a decision to protect and save lives.



Lift the stupid fucking restrictions and bring troops to everything west of the Dnieper River, along the Ukraine western border, down to Odesa and along the Belarusian border up to Kyiv. Russia has no chance of getting their troops beyond the Dnieper River at this stage so there's no risk of soldier on soldier conflict, only drones and missiles lobbed from miles away which should be intercepted if the fucking West pulled their finger out their asses and sent AD with the "training" troops, thus freeing Ukrainian troops to go to the frontlines.

It's a sick fucking joke at this stage how pathetic and cowardly the West is.



It is obviously Russia's fault for terrorism and it is also sucks Ukraine can't fire back as well as not having enough air defense.

But why allow people to gather in dense areas like a shopping mall on a border city known for getting rockets lobbed at them?



Farsala said:

It is obviously Russia's fault for terrorism and it is also sucks Ukraine can't fire back as well as not having enough air defense.

But why allow people to gather in dense areas like a shopping mall on a border city known for getting rockets lobbed at them?

It's Ukraine's second biggest city. What shall Ukraine do? Tell 1.5m people to sit in a bunker for years? It's not as if they are much safer at home so that it doesn't really matter if they are in a shopping center or a residential building. These people still go to work and have their daily life after all. 



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Farsala said:

It is obviously Russia's fault for terrorism and it is also sucks Ukraine can't fire back as well as not having enough air defense.

But why allow people to gather in dense areas like a shopping mall on a border city known for getting rockets lobbed at them?

This is pretty much the risk that Ukrainians have to take everyday, no matter where they are, they are at risk of a Russian missile one day blowing them up, we've all seen how Russia operates in its wars, they don't just "accidentally" hit civilian targets, they actively seek them out to try to break the spirits of their opponents. Ukrainians know and accept this risk because what other choice do they have? They want to still be able to live their lives, the alternative is Ukraine forcefully locks them all in an underground bunker for the next 3-5 years.



Russian military airfield Baltimore near Voronezh. Airfield from which Russian military aircrafts took off to attack the hardware store in Kharkiv.

180km from the frontline, 50km closer than Belbek military airfield in Sevastopol which was targeted by ATACMS missiles recently.

We were able to prevent this, save lives. But unfortunately for all Ukrainian, for Kharkiv residents who will soon bury their family members, Baltimore and other military targets on Russian territory are under the personal protection of J.Sullivan and his colleagues.

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Blood on the hands of all the escalation managers in the west.



russians struck a heart of Kharkiv, the most populated area in the city (Saltivka).

These buildings that I have highlighted are 100- 200-435 long 12 story buildings that house 450000 people.

Most of them, on the weekend go the shopping center next to them, the mall has home improvement store (that was struck), two very large shopping malls with movie theatre, food courts, trampoline park, hockey arena and much more.

My father in law was 200 meters away from there as he has a small electronics store. He usually goes to the epicenter at 4:00 PM, but this time he had a customer so he stayed, and that when the strike happened. He was lucky, unfortunately others were not 😢.