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It would be nice if the EU would supply a different system of air defense, instead of relying on getting the few systems available of Patriot. Ukraine doesn't necessarily need a great system when good numbers of an average one would be very beneficial. I'm wondering what air defense system France, Germany, and GB use. Could Ukraine be supplied with a system from these nations?



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Reason #2000 why Ukraine must win and must win ASAP, not "as long as it takes".

The longer this goes on, the more encouragement given to shitty politicians to do shitty things.

People need to be have hope that something better can be achieved, Ukraine winning will do exactly that for Belarusians, for Georgians.

If this bill is passed, we lose another EU candidate to Russian influence.

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My only concern is that with such a stupid delay, Ukraine is in a desperate situation and will need support ASAP and America might have to blow through that package fairly quickly.



Fucking twat, the votes were always there for the Senate bill, this bill is almost exactly the same as the Senate bill, months worth of dead Ukrainians because you wanted to play politics and you still haven't pleased the lunatics in your party because they don't want Ukraine aid full-stop, those people were never needed to pass the bill though.

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Russia’s Foreign Ministry has been drawing up plans to try to weaken its Western adversaries, including the United States, and leverage the Ukraine war to forge a global order free from what it sees as American dominance, according to a secret Foreign Ministry document.

In a classified addendum to Russia’s official — and public — “Foreign Policy Concept of the Russian Federation,” the ministry calls for an “offensive information campaign” and other measures spanning “the military-political, economic and trade and informational psychological spheres” against a “coalition of unfriendly countries” led by the United States.

Secret Russian foreign policy document urges action to weaken the U.S. - The Washington Post

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This was always the case, Lmao. The majority of USA's financial aid to Ukraine stayed in America.  It took Republicans over a year to finally admit that most of the US aid is helping their industry, stays in America and provides jobs. Johnson always knew this and his new package doesn't change a thing to how America operates.

The USA provides Ukraine with their "old" stock, while producing new ones to replenish that stock, dumb fucks like MTG literally think that Biden flies to Ukraine and hands Zelenskyy billions in cash, Lol. Either Johnson is as much of a dumbass or Trump is dictating his orders.

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Prime Minister of the Netherlands Mark Rutte said that The Netherlands is ready to buy Patriot air defense systems for Ukraine from countries that are not ready to transfer them to Ukraine free of charge.

"We can buy it from them, we can deliver it to Ukraine, we have the money available. It’s crucial," he said on arrival at the EU leaders summit.

The Netherlands itself has 4 Patriot batteries of which 1 in reserve. Asked if The Netherlands could spare an additional system on top of already supplied launchers, Rutte earlier today said to the Dutch press: "Then we fall below the minimum requirements that we must set for our operational readiness and international obligations."

NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg gave short shrift to this argument in Brussels today. After speaking with the Rutte and his counterparts from Denmark and the Czech Republic - three countries at the forefront of military support for Ukraine - Stoltenberg sent a clear message. 'The situation on the battlefield remains extremely difficult. Ukraine needs more help. If allies have to make a choice between meeting NATO goals in terms of military capability and giving support to Ukraine, my message is clear: send more aid to Ukraine.'