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Unmanned Systems Forces have also confirmed the strike on the Kirishi oil refinery. The attack triggered a major fire, verified by NASA FIRMS data. Located 800 km from Ukraine, the refinery is a key supplier of fuel to St. Petersburg and several Russian regions. Damage assessment is still ongoing.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 14 September 2025 at 09:14


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Ryuu96 said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

Isn't Trump right for once - regarding China tarrifs and banning Russian oil completely?

Of course coutries are still dependent so hopefully they stick to cutting it out by 2027, if Slovakia and Hungary reduce dependence it will be much easier for the whole of EU.
At the same time vulerable economies like France and Italy are dependent, sudden shocks might reduce public support for Ukraine.

Tarrifs on China would be easier and affect their cheap shipments flooding Europe, they support Putin's war already and that must not be okay.
I guess that would mean less Chinese bln investments in Europe.

EDIT: Oh shit he says it's Biden's and Zelensky's war, such a sick man. If he was president not only it would have happened, but Ukraine would not exist as of today. 40M people would literally live under dictaorship, fear and persecution, at best.

The issue is that he has created yet another excuse for delaying his "big scary consequences" on Russia, first it was 2 weeks, then it was 50 days, now it's when NATO completely stops buying Russian oil, despite the fact that Trump's best friend in NATO is Hungary's Viktor Orban, a big purchaser of Russian oil, he knows full well that Slovakia and Hungary won't completely cut themselves off from Russian oil and thus he has created an excuse for never punishing Russia, he has essentially shifted the blame for his cowardice onto NATO.

By the time that every single country in NATO stops buying a single drop of Russian oil, Trump won't be in office. It's a ridiculously unrealistic demand, there are countries in NATO that aren't even apart of EU either like Türkiye who will do whatever the fuck they want as Erdogan often does, he plays both sides. So while EU should absolutely cut Russian oil off entirely (and they've already made significant progress), even if the whole of Western Europe did so, there's still Hungary and Slovakia, who Trump never directly criticises, and then there's Türkiye who has no reason to follow what EU does and is the third largest buyer of Russian oil.

As for secondary sanctions on purchasers of Russian oil, I'm in favour of them, even on allies, even on ourselves, nobody should be funding Russia's war machine, but what I do not want us to follow is Trump's braindead tariff scattershot policy, it should be about the oil only, it has been a disaster for America and would kill Europe's economy, we need to be smarter and more surgical, the issue with secondary sanctions via EU is that they require unanimous backing so that's out because Hungary and Slovakia would say no, Lol.

making full sense sir! Trump barely critizes Putin, imagine Orban, Fico and sneaky Erdogan :/



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

Sanctions won't end the war anyway, so even if Trump's stupid proposals were fully implemented, we'd be looking at an ongoing war while European countries have to battle rising inflation and related turmoil.

The way to end this war is to provide Ukraine with all weapon systems that are necessary to win a war and remove all restrictions on how these weapons are supposed to be used. Additionally, you send NATO troops into Ukraine. Not to the frontlines, but to the perimeter of every major city; and then you tell Putin that any attack or anything that threatens the life of a NATO soldier will trigger an actual involvement of NATO soldiers in the war. NATO needs to flip the script of it being Russia who dictates the rules.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

🇺🇸 US House Speaker Mike Johnson:

"I believe that desperate times call for desperate measures, and the time for appropriate sanctions against Russia is long overdue. There is a great appetite in Congress. So we are ready to work with the White House and our colleagues in the Senate to achieve this."

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— MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 14 September 2025 at 16:45

This is such a pathetic, weaselly Mike Johnson way of saying to Trump "Please support the sanctions" without criticising him, Lmao.



Polish anti-drone teams will receive training from Ukrainian operators at a NATO center in Poland, Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski announced. Ukraine’s expertise in countering Russian drones will help bolster defenses after recent incursions.

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/s...

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— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) 14 September 2025 at 16:44

Ukraine not only has to defend its own country, it has to teach others how to defend theirs now, Lol. No disrespect to Poland of course, Ukraine are probably one of the leaders in drone warfare right now, but the frustration of Ukraine fighting to its life whilst at the same time still helping others. Ukraine seems to have some cards ey, considering countries are asking them for their help now in drone warfare and even Keith Kellog said that America is seriously behind Ukraine in this regard.

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McCaul has long pushed Trump to take a tougher stance on Russia and its invasion of Ukraine and he said he thinks the president is "waking up" that Russian President Vladimir Putin "is not negotiating in good faith."

McCaul becomes one of at least 10 House members leaving the chamber without seeking higher office, a tally that includes fellow GOP hawk Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska, who's been increasingly critical of Trump's response to Putin.

McCaul of Texas to retire, GOP hawk worries after Russia escalation | AP News

No doubt these retirees will be replaced by Putin bootlickers.



Whether sabotage or some worker didn't inspect the rails or whatever the case is, there are 14+ fuel tanks plus the locomotives that are damaged/destroyed

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Edit:   The Telegraph says that it was indeed sabotage.  

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/e95ae90f3607a3af

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Ukraine Destroys Russian Navy Control Base in Occupied Crimea

https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-destroys-russian-navy-control-base-in-occupied-crimea-11631



Russia's Second-Largest Oil Refinery Hit By Drones! Kirishi Near St. Petersburg.



Zelensky: We appreciate Japan’s decisive actions in increasing pressure on Russia. Japan has joined the reduced price cap for Russian oil at $47.60. This will significantly impact the Kremlin’s financial capabilities.

https://bsky.app/profile/theukrainianreview.bsky.social/post/3lynavmfhb22r