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Putin demanded Ukraine cede Donetsk and Luhansk region in exchange for freezing rest of front line www.ft.com/content/6b0b... via @financialtimes.com

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— Christopher Miller (@christopherjm.ft.com) 16 August 2025 at 15:53

Crazy demands still in play. Axios reports Putin proposed freezing the front in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson in exchange for Ukraine pulling out of Donetsk, and also asked Trump to recognize the occupied regions plus Crimea as part of Russia.

If true, this is what Trump is asking Ukraine to accept.

— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 16 August 2025 at 15:56

🇺🇸🤔🇺🇦 Trump told European leaders peace could come quickly if Zelensky ceded all of Donbas to Russia, including areas not under Russian control, - NYT

In return, Putin offered a cease-fire along current lines and a written pledge not to attack Ukraine or Europe again, a promise he has broken before.

— MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 16 August 2025 at 15:04

Former President of Russia confirms that Putin now totally owns this US President.

- Trump confirmed to Putin no sanctions.

- Trump agrees that only Ukraine AND Europe surrendering to Russia can end the war.

By mere flattery, Putin has totally paralyzed the US.

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— Jay in Kyiv (@jayinkyiv.bsky.social) 16 August 2025 at 15:49



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Government papers found in an Alaskan hotel reveal new details of Trump-Putin summit

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/16/nx-s1-5504196/trump-putin-summit-documents-left-behind



For anyone who still had any doubts that the USA is Russia's little bitch, Trump did a great job at providing clarity on the matter.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

The Monday meeting will likely be another trap where he ambushes Zelenskyy and accuses him of prolonging the war for not accepting a horrifically bad deal which entirely benefits Russia, maybe throw more stupid comments about what he is wearing and pathetically weak European leaders will stand by and let it happen again.



In Ukraine, it was not a welcome sight.

"Red carpets and this level of ceremony are normal at international events, but in this case – for an aggressor responsible for the deaths of millions – it should not have happened," said Maria Drachova, 40, a lawyer in the capital Kyiv.

Drachova, who woke up and watched the footage over breakfast, said it appeared as though "the entire event was staged to please Putin".

"The rational world is behaving irrationally by giving him this welcome," she said.

Ukrainians who had stayed up late to watch the spectacle were seeing the "legitimisation of a war criminal at the highest level", said Oleksandr Kovalenko, a Ukrainian writer and political analyst.

"There was no need for this pomp at all," Kovalenko said. "This is a meeting that should have been conducted in a much more restrained way – minimalistic, without this level of respect."

"When I saw what happened I felt crushed," said Serhii Orlyk, 50, from the eastern province of Donetsk, which has been largely seized by Russian forces and seen some of the most intense fighting of the war.

"I lost my home twice, in Sloviansk and in Donetsk. I lost relatives," Orlyk said. "I understand that to agree on something, there must be protocol, you cannot just slap Putin in the face when he arrives. But it was a very unpleasant spectacle – especially his smirks."

"It was a massive victory for Putin even before he got off the plane, to be rehabilitated in this manner," Giles said. "Trump has facilitated him arriving to be greeted as a head of state, when he ought to be finding it difficult to travel because he is an internationally wanted war criminal."

Trump's approach would be unlikely to inspire European leaders to follow suit, Giles said. "If anything, it will reinforce how important it is not to endorse Putin's demands on Ukraine, and not to subject themselves to the same kinds of spectacle that is earning Trump scorn."

The US had a "wide range of tools" at its disposal to assist Ukraine in that mission, said Oleksandr Kovalenko, the political analyst. But pomp and ceremony for President Putin should not be among them, he said.

"Perhaps this was all intended to deceive and flatter Putin, and push him into following the White House's strategy," Kovalenko said.

"But I doubt it. More likely it is Trump's whim, without any strategy at all."

'The World is Behaving Irrationally' - Putin's Warm Welcome in Alaska Gets Cold Reaction in Ukraine - BBC News



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Oleksandr Merezhko, chair of the Ukrainian parliament’s foreign affairs committee, summed up the outcome of the Trump-Putin summit for his country in one word: “awful”.

Story w/ @fabricedeprez.bsky.social on Ukrainians' reaction to yesterday's meeting in Alaska.
www.ft.com/content/41c2...

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— Christopher Miller (@christopherjm.ft.com) 16 August 2025 at 17:56

“This is a stab in the back,” a senior Ukrainian official told the FT, describing Trump’s shift.

“He just wants a quick deal,” another senior Ukrainian official said.

www.ft.com/content/41c2...

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— Christopher Miller (@christopherjm.ft.com) 16 August 2025 at 17:59

🇺🇸❗️🇺🇦 Trump has teamed up with Putin, and they may both be starting to force Ukraine to accept a peace treaty, which in reality means capitulation, — FT citing Ukrainian officials

"This is a stab in the back. Zelensky will not agree to hand over Donetsk and Luhansk to Russian control."

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— MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 16 August 2025 at 18:16

FT reports that Trump has effectively sided with Putin, pressuring Ukraine to accept a capitulation-style “peace deal.” Ukrainian officials called his sharp shift in stance after the Alaska summit a “stab in the back.”

Time for the EU to really step up if they really want Ukraine to win this war.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 16 August 2025 at 19:11

No Ukrainian president will ever surrender an inch of Ukrainian soil and President Zelenskyy, expectedly, rebuffed even the notion that this will change, ever. Especially the heavily fortified areas in the northern Donetsk region.

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— (((Tendar))) (@tendar.bsky.social) 16 August 2025 at 18:53


I’m sure that Putin at the moment could even get away with making a move on Alaska. Just praise Trump for a bit and all’s good.



It was a 10/10 and full success. I mean, Putin said to Trump that USA was dead a year ago and now it's awesome after such a short time of Trump leading.

Common guys, what else should we wish for? Trump heard nice words about himself, isn't that enough to decide about the fate of Ukraine?



Putin has refused to allow Trump envoy Keith Kellogg into the summit because he is seen as pro-Ukraine, CNN reports. Trump agreed.

https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3lwheltugj22y

(and some various political cartoons that i found humorous) 

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Two separate articles saying that Ukraine may get the swedish Gripen in the near future, which i'm all for. Finally, they will get a fighter that is easier to learn/store hidden away from drones and will hopefully have all of the nice software packages that Ukraine's F-16s have (link 16).


1. Zelenskyy hints at Gripen fighter jets in new Ukraine-Sweden aviation project
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/zelenskyy-hints-at-gripen-fighter-jets-in-1754852891.html

2. India’s Rafale Orders May Help Ukraine Access F-16 and Gripen Jets
https://en.defence-ua.com/industries/indias_rafale_orders_may_help_ukraine_access_f_16_and_gripen_jets-15465.html