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SvennoJ on 29 May 2025
SecondWar said:
Ryuu96 said:

Not shocked at all, Steam allows any old shit to be released on their platform, they have zero quality control.

And yeah, Call of Duty is American propaganda, it is a bit of a recruitment tool for America's military but I don't think CoD has even depicted an active invasion, almost all CoDs have been focused on made up shit, a few based on real events like World Wars which, it isn't propaganda to point out that the Nazis were based, Lol. Black Ops 6 main antagonist even is an America-led paramilitary group which branched off from the CIA. Call of Duty has problems but it's a far cry from straight Nazi propaganda.

CoD is fiction though. It might have basis in time period like WW2 and the Cold War but its creative license at best.

Also recall there was recently an Argentine developed game about the Falklands War (I forgot its name) that the developer refused to be allowed to be translated in English. Whilst I oppose the sentiment of that game, I get why it wasn’t banned. The Russian Invasion game though is another thing entirely.

At least the majority of reviews of it I cam see focus on the propaganda aspects.

Err



https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/lifestyle/others/the-highway-of-death-one-of-the-most-brutal-chapters-of-the-gulf-war



https://quchronicle.com/68655/opinion/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-is-blatant-historical-revisionism/



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shavenferret on 31 May 2025

The missile that ukraine is developing or the Taurus that they are hoping for will be a game changer for Ukraine. They'll be able to hit the military factories and other targets much harder than when they have previously been using only drones. Keep increasing the pain, until the people are angry at putin.



Zkuq on 31 May 2025
shavenferret said:

The missile that ukraine is developing or the Taurus that they are hoping for will be a game changer for Ukraine. They'll be able to hit the military factories and other targets much harder than when they have previously been using only drones. Keep increasing the pain, until the people are angry at putin.

No single weapon, aside from maybe nuclear weapons, is going to be a game-changer. They all have their impact, of course, but it's very unlikely any single weapon is going to be a game-changer. At this point, even destroying the Crimean Bridge would have only limited effect, I reckon, and that's probably where the Taurus could have the greatest impact.



shavenferret on 31 May 2025
Zkuq said:
shavenferret said:

The missile that ukraine is developing or the Taurus that they are hoping for will be a game changer for Ukraine. They'll be able to hit the military factories and other targets much harder than when they have previously been using only drones. Keep increasing the pain, until the people are angry at putin.

No single weapon, aside from maybe nuclear weapons, is going to be a game-changer. They all have their impact, of course, but it's very unlikely any single weapon is going to be a game-changer. At this point, even destroying the Crimean Bridge would have only limited effect, I reckon, and that's probably where the Taurus could have the greatest impact.

Right now Ukraine doesn't even have these sorts of missles while Russia on the other hand has enough to fire at legitimate targets and in addition to that unleash a terror campaign. This sudden new ability will indeed be a game changer albeit among the many others that they have benefited from, such as:

-naval drones

-Obtaining F-16 fighters

-Patriot batteries (they just had crappy old Soviet systems before)

etc.  

What will happen when Ukraine can destroy every bridge behind the Russian lines, any war factory, rail depots, and factories ( missles will have a much bigger bang than piddly drones). 



Zkuq on 31 May 2025
shavenferret said:
Zkuq said:

No single weapon, aside from maybe nuclear weapons, is going to be a game-changer. They all have their impact, of course, but it's very unlikely any single weapon is going to be a game-changer. At this point, even destroying the Crimean Bridge would have only limited effect, I reckon, and that's probably where the Taurus could have the greatest impact.

Right now Ukraine doesn't even have these sorts of missles while Russia on the other hand has enough to fire at legitimate targets and in addition to that unleash a terror campaign. This sudden new ability will indeed be a game changer albeit among the many others that they have benefited from, such as:

-naval drones

-Obtaining F-16 fighters

-Patriot batteries (they just had crappy old Soviet systems before)

etc.  

What will happen when Ukraine can destroy every bridge behind the Russian lines, any war factory, rail depots, and factories ( missles will have a much bigger bang than piddly drones). 

I don't think any of the things you mentioned are considered game-changers. They've all had their impact for sure, but they haven't done much to change the big picture. Naval drones, maybe, and even that's mainly to allow for safer trade rather than impact on actual warfare. I guess if you consider those three game-changers though, new missiles could have a similar impact. I just don't think they're generally considered game-changers, and wouldn't consider them as such.



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shavenferret on 31 May 2025
Zkuq said:
shavenferret said:

Right now Ukraine doesn't even have these sorts of missles while Russia on the other hand has enough to fire at legitimate targets and in addition to that unleash a terror campaign. This sudden new ability will indeed be a game changer albeit among the many others that they have benefited from, such as:

-naval drones

-Obtaining F-16 fighters

-Patriot batteries (they just had crappy old Soviet systems before)

etc.  

What will happen when Ukraine can destroy every bridge behind the Russian lines, any war factory, rail depots, and factories ( missles will have a much bigger bang than piddly drones). 

I don't think any of the things you mentioned are considered game-changers. They've all had their impact for sure, but they haven't done much to change the big picture. Naval drones, maybe, and even that's mainly to allow for safer trade rather than impact on actual warfare. I guess if you consider those three game-changers though, new missiles could have a similar impact. I just don't think they're generally considered game-changers, and wouldn't consider them as such.

Without its F-16s, Ukraine would still be flying soviet heaps of shit.  That won't do squat.  Without the Patriots, they would have been a lot worse off.   Those AAA have kept Russia's planes a lot farther off otherwise.  You can't look at things only from the gain that they've displayed, but consider what would happen if they weren't around and/or had an inferior system.  You have to realize right now that Ukraine is fighting something much much larger than itself.  So, when we are talking about game changers, then it simply means that Russia won't fvck the country up even more in its absence.  You're saying that these are all marginal improvements, and they really aren't.  The things i've listed are necessary, vital, and contributed to a large degree. 



shavenferret on 31 May 2025

Ukrainian F-16s will be integrated into NATO's digital network: Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense has signed an agreement to join the CRC System Interface — a command and control system that uses the key communication protocol Link-16.



https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3lqhqnf4pos2s



Zkuq on 31 May 2025
shavenferret said:
Zkuq said:

I don't think any of the things you mentioned are considered game-changers. They've all had their impact for sure, but they haven't done much to change the big picture. Naval drones, maybe, and even that's mainly to allow for safer trade rather than impact on actual warfare. I guess if you consider those three game-changers though, new missiles could have a similar impact. I just don't think they're generally considered game-changers, and wouldn't consider them as such.

Without its F-16s, Ukraine would still be flying soviet heaps of shit.  That won't do squat.  Without the Patriots, they would have been a lot worse off.   Those AAA have kept Russia's planes a lot farther off otherwise.  You can't look at things only from the gain that they've displayed, but consider what would happen if they weren't around and/or had an inferior system.  You have to realize right now that Ukraine is fighting something much much larger than itself.  So, when we are talking about game changers, then it simply means that Russia won't fvck the country up even more in its absence.  You're saying that these are all marginal improvements, and they really aren't.  The things i've listed are necessary, vital, and contributed to a large degree. 

The expert opinions I've read have largely agreed on the effect of any individual weapon not being game-changing, and frankly that matches exactly my observations of the situation. The tides haven't turned after any of these weapons has been made available to Ukraine. Ukraine has too few F-16s to do much with them, so as far as I understand, they're mostly useful for AA and maybe something to restrict what Russia is able to do (without risking even heavier losses). Patriot systems protect Ukrainian cities, but militarily, I would guess they've mostly let Ukraine get away with less risk mitigation actions. I'm sure they've both been impactful and not necessarily even to only a marginal extent, but Ukraine would need a lot more of them for them to be truly game-changing. Without either of them, I imagine Ukraine would be doing worse but still OK-ish.



Ryuu96 on 01 June 2025

Waiting for more details but Ukraine conducted drone attacks on multiple Russian airfields.



Ryuu96 on 01 June 2025

Olenya Air Base, Murmansk

Smoke can be observed, reportedly near the airbase.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 1 June 2025 at 11:37

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— MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 1 June 2025 at 11:39

More footage from the site, reportedly near/at Olenya Air Base. It is claimed that 10 explosions were heard prior to a fire breaking out.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 1 June 2025 at 11:41

One of Ukraine’s most successful strikes deep inside Russia might be happening right now. New footage reportedly shows Olenya Air Base with Russian Tu-bombers burning after drone hits. More visuals are surfacing—this looks really big.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 1 June 2025 at 12:07