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United States Vice President JD Vance will not meet with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz at the Munich Security Conference, marking a serious diplomatic rebuke to the leader of the host country at a time of heightened transatlantic tensions over a potential Ukraine peace deal.

JD Vance snubs Germany’s Scholz at Munich Security Conference – POLITICO

Europeans are worried that no one on the Trump team has any real experience of negotiating with the Russians, one official said. Most of Putin's team have decades of experience dealing with the US and Ukraine and learned their trade in the Russian secret services. To make matters worse for the Europeans, most of their everyday communications with the US administration has been shut off since Trump took office for a second time last month, according to two officials, leaving them reliant on formal phone calls, set-piece meetings and public statements.

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Trump faces a host of challenges. One is that Ukraine will not necessarily do his bidding. The United States is a major military backer of Ukraine, but Ukraine has its own military, its own defense industry, and the aid of countries (such as Poland) that are desperate to prevent a Russian victory. Another is that China will play some kind of role in war termination, not least because Beijing will be instrumental to Ukraine's postwar reconstruction. There is almost no precedent for the United States and China conducting negotiations that are not bilateral. Although Trump has floated the idea of cooperating diplomatically with China on Ukraine, it would be very challenging in practice.

Trump Needs a Peace of Inches in Ukraine, Not Miles

Donald Trump’s appeasement of Vladimir Putin makes Neville Chamberlain look like a principled, courageous realist. At least Chamberlain was trying to prevent a major European war, whereas Trump is acting in the middle of one. Trump’s “Munich” (synonymous in English with the 1938 deal in which Britain and France sold out Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany) comes on the eve of the big security conference in today’s Bavarian capital, where his emissaries will meet western allies. That Munich security conference must be the beginning of a decisive European response, learning from our own tragic history in order to avoid repeating it.

The next step Trump proposes is in effect a new “Yalta” (referring to the February 1945 US-Soviet-UK summit in the Crimean resort of Yalta, which has become synonymous with superpowers deciding the fate of European countries over their heads). In this case, his proposal is that the US and Russia should decide the fate of Ukraine with marginal if any involvement of Ukraine or other European countries. But this time the occupants of the White House and the Kremlin should meet first in Saudi Arabia, then in their respective capitals, while it seems the actual Yalta, in the Crimea, is to be ceded to Russia. For in the brave new world of Trump and Putin, might is right and territorial expansion is what great powers do, be it Russia to Ukraine, the US to Canada and Greenland – or China to Taiwan.

All historical analogies have their limits and those with “Munich” and “Yalta” have been overused. But here, for once, they do feel apposite – so long as we highlight differences as well as similarities.

For a few weeks after Trump’s election we had a faint hope that when it came to Ukraine his administration would follow its proclaimed motto of “peace through strength”, understanding that strength is the only language Putin comprehends. Now we see that Trump not only bullies his country’s friends but sucks up to his country’s enemies.

This so-called strongman is actually a weak man when it comes to confronting the hostile authoritarians of this world. In just one day, he has made four large, unnecessary and damaging concessions. First, he has not just initiated exploratory talks with Putin via an intermediary, which would be defensible, but personally given the Russian dictator fulsome and sycophantic recognition as a world leader. “We both reflected on the Great History of our Nations,” he reported of their long phone call, in a social media post. They discussed “the great benefit that we will someday have in working together. But first, as we both agreed, we want to stop the millions of deaths taking place in the War with Russia/Ukraine.” Imagine if in 1941, instead of entering the war against Nazi Germany on the side of Britain and other allied European nations, the president of the United States had rung up Hitler, reflected on “the Great History of our Nations”, and then talked about jointly ending “the War with Germany/Britain”.

Second, he has offered the Russian leader a bilateral US-Russian negotiation over the heads of the Ukrainians, precisely the kind of new Yalta that Putin has always wanted. And then, third and fourth, he has declared that Ukraine will almost certainly have to concede territory and that the US will not support its membership of Nato. Both those things have been said privately in Washington and other western capitals for some time, but publicly conceding them upfront is a masterclass in how not to practise the “art of the deal”. (He did something similar in negotiations with the Taliban over Afghanistan, starting rather than ending with a timetable for US withdrawal.) Historians now have the notes and recollections of those close to Hitler, documenting his delight at the deal he exacted from Chamberlain. One day, we may have similar evidence of Putin’s private glee at the concessions made by Trump.

This doesn’t mean there will be anything deserving the name of peace any time soon. The Kremlin’s first public readout from the Trump-Putin call was notably cautious, warning that it is “essential to settle the reasons for the conflict”. Probably Putin’s ideal scenario would be to keep talking peace with Trump, through a series of leisurely summits in Saudi Arabia, the US and Russia, while Russia continues to press forward on the battlefield, demolish Ukraine’s energy infrastructure and undermine its economy, society and political unity in other ways. (Asked about the involvement of Ukraine in the talks, Trump mentioned the need for a presidential election there, thus parroting a Russian attack line on the legitimacy of president Volodymyr Zelenskyy.)

There’s one huge difference between Europe at the time of the original Munich and Yalta, and Europe now. Today’s Europe is rich, free, democratic and a closely integrated community of partners and allies. Yes, as recent polling by the European Council on Foreign Relations again demonstrates, it’s also divided and confused about the best way forward for Ukraine. But with a sufficiently determined coalition of willing and capable countries, definitely including Britain, Europe can still enable Ukraine to stabilise the frontline, hold up economically and eventually get to negotiate from strength, not weakness. That’s why this weekend’s Munich security conference must be the beginning of a European riposte to Trump’s Munich.

Trump’s senseless capitulation to Putin is a betrayal of Ukraine – and terrible dealmaking | Timothy Garton Ash | The Guardian

Trump being worse than Neville Chamberlain. This is the strong man MAGA looks up to, bends down and kisses the feet of Putin.



At this point, I would be in full support of leaving Five Eyes, UKUSA and booting all American soldiers out of UK. Traitorous Bastards. EU, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Canada and UK should form a tighter allegiance without America. We can't trust them anymore. Europe as I said should only use European military equipment in the future, hopefully one day we can get to the point where we can boot American soldiers out of Europe completely. Europe needs to show America they're making a big mistake in destroying all their soft power, if there are even any sane Republicans left to acknowledge that. Democrats can't really moan at us about it, not until we have an America which won't backstab us every different presidency.



Imagine being invaded, getting your towns and cities destroyed, millions of lives ruined or lost, but still fighting for years for your independence only to be made to surrender AND pay reparations for... being invaded.. to your allies 🤯

— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) 13 February 2025 at 18:16

Today, russia struck the residential area of Kramatorsk, killing 1 persons and injuring 5 others, including a child.
"putin wants deaths to stop..."🤦‍♀️

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) 13 February 2025 at 19:57


SvennoJ said:
crissindahouse said:

In Germany we get to learn in school about what Germany has done wrong in the past like every single school year so that this shit never happens again. There's sadly enough idiots who still don't get it but at least those who do learn something.

How are Russians ever supposed to learn that what they did was wrong and not good with a deal Trump probably thinks about? How shall future Russian generations not strive to take territories as well when they will always believe that what they did was the correct move? They will teach in school about the win against Ukraine and the West, how Russia was fighting against "the enemy" and how the enemy had to give up because of Russia's strength.

How is this supposed to be a better tactic as to wipe Russia's military ass to give them the feeling how strong the West can be. But the "let's wipe Russia's ass" is something the West as a whole has missed sadly. 

Yet Germany still supports Israel's genocide, with weapons and legal defense at the ICJ.

The shit is happening again and apparently Germany learned the wrong lessons, supporting the new wannebe Hitler Netanyahu while cracking down on anti war / genocide protests and freedom of speech.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/11/11/germanys-muddle-antisemitism

Schools need to teach children how to think for themselves, next to teaching about human rights, international humanitarian law, Rome statute, Genocide convention and use that in context with world history.

Moving the 'problem' to another part of the world wasn't a solution, WW2 never ended in the ME. Is that also being taught in German schools? The German alliance with the Ottoman empire in WW1 that led to the UK promising people in Palestine area to rise up against the Germans, but then got betrayed by the Balfour declaration and Sykes-Picot agreement after WW1 ended.

The trauma from WW2 and centuries of antisemitism in Europe was never really addressed, instead used as the main driver / excuse for committing genocide and ethnic cleansing ever since.

No wonder Putin feels emboldened to take what he wants. With veto power and seeing how ineffective the world is in stopping a little country in the ME from openly committing war crimes for many decades, why would he stop. Israel's legacy is teaching other dictator's the power of modern propaganda.

In the recent years, I've been increasingly thinking that our education system is outdated for the complex society of today and the adversaries we have. We need more critical thinking and capability to understand complex situations, the big picture, and think in the long term, as well as capability to adapt. I don't think we would be in this situation if people were more capable of thinking.



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This is what I predicted in November when Trump got confirmed. Yet people were doubting my fears. People were saying Trump would be harder on Russia and China... That he was a wildcard and not simply a Russian stooge.



Farsala said:

This is what I predicted in November when Trump got confirmed. Yet people were doubting my fears. People were saying Trump would be harder on Russia and China... That he was a wildcard and not simply a Russian stooge.

People really said that? Here?

Trump is a weakling who wants recognition from his peers. He was never able to be recognized as a respect-worthy businessman and he will fail all the same when it comes to politics.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

Zkuq said:

In the recent years, I've been increasingly thinking that our education system is outdated for the complex society of today and the adversaries we have. We need more critical thinking and capability to understand complex situations, the big picture, and think in the long term, as well as capability to adapt. I don't think we would be in this situation if people were more capable of thinking.

I think we need media classes in school which revolve around spotting fake news, how to properly read information and fact check things, not to believe every single thing you see in a 30 second TikTok video, along with as you said, critical thinking skills, long term thinking and bigger picture and the overall dangers of social media. The way Twitter and especially TikTok has managed to poison minds by spreading bullshit is really dangerous, nowadays people aren't reading anything, they're getting all their information from a 30 second TikTok video from some random guy in his basement.

We can't just sit back and do...nothing about Twitter and TikTok spreading bullshit, something has to be done now, if things continue then social media will become one of the biggest mistakes in modern history and set humanity back significantly, I do legit believe that social media is making people on average dumber and easily tricked and it's a driver of fascism. If EU won't ban Twitter/TikTok then they need to do something else drastic, as I said, Twitter is now an arm of America's Republican Party and TikTok is an arm of China's CCP and what does EU have? Nothing.

Also I feel like the way we teach history should be altered a little, I know in the UK I was taught a lot about WW2 in my school, I think that's still the case but it was almost entirely about the war itself, what was missing was what came before, we need to teach people more deeply what led to the Nazis gaining power, the signs of fascism, the political environment which led to fascism, not just the actual war itself but the signs of fascism and how the Nazis gained their power. We have far too many dense motherfuckers nowadays saying that the Nazi's were communists.

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Last night, Russian forces attacked the Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant. A drone with an explosive warhead hit a shelter protecting the world from radiation at Reactor 4, Zelensky reported. Officials say the situation is stable with, fortunately, no radiation spike detected

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 14 February 2025 at 07:49

The IAEA confirms a UAV strike on Chornobyl’s New Safe Confinement overnight, causing a fire.

No breaches were detected, radiation levels remain stable, no casualties. But IAEA head Grossi warns: this incident and rising military activity near Zaporizhzhia highlights ongoing nuclear risks.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 14 February 2025 at 07:58

Ukraine’s emergency services revealed debris from the Russian drone that struck Chornobyl NPP. Radiation levels at the site measured 0.57 µSv/h, within safe limits.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 14 February 2025 at 08:00

Here is Russia's peace and negotiation, they lobbed a drone at the containment shield containing Chernobyl. As per usual, show weakness to Russia and they take advantage of it and escalate things, showing weakness to a fascist, like America is doing, only emboldens the fascist, Donald Trump is the 21st century Neville Chamberlain.



Ukraine has not planned negotiations in Saudi Arabia next week, according to a source in the presidential team, writes RBC.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 14 February 2025 at 10:17

Trump lied as per usual.