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Thoughts on the Steam Deck?

Way too big, who wants to play an anvil? 18 26.09%
 
Bad design but still cool idea 17 24.64%
 
Maybe a Steam Deck Mini w... 3 4.35%
 
Does it come with a wireless gamepad? lol 1 1.45%
 
I'll just play it on my c... 0 0%
 
It's huge but still looking forward to it 11 15.94%
 
You're crazy it looks awesome 19 27.54%
 
Total:69

Bigger than the Wii U tablet??? No thanks



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the-pi-guy said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes you can mess around with settings to try and get the performance you are most confortable with, still being able to make it 60fps with other compromises don't nulify the defense that 30fps isn't a problem anymore for PC gamers while for the longest of time bitching console games were inferior 30fps experiences. But why not give more battery if you already making it this big?

Sure there were close to 1 gen difference between the games on console and PSP and Vita. But if we want to go that way there will be a gen difference in quality between a top level gamer PC and Steam Deck don't you think? Also sure that if Vita launched earlier it would need bigger size and less battery, there is no magic, the earlier your device the least powerful for same size and consumption.

I would say the 3 would likely use the space likely better, there isn't much to be done on the APU itself because well neither Steam nor the other 3 develop their APU.

I think it is hard to say that performance was first when well that in itself would already remove portable being a choice =p

And just to make clear, although I have Switch I would more likely play steamdeck than it, will monitor the prices for when I'm able to buy it.

>But if we want to go that way there will be a gen difference in quality between a top level gamer PC and Steam Deck don't you think?

My point wasn't that the Vita/PSP were behind, and so will the Steam Deck be behind.

My point is for a portable you have to balance between performance, size, battery life (and release date technically).

Sony and Nintendo made performance, and release date sacrifices for a smaller portable console.

Valve is making size and battery life sacrifices for a more powerful console. 

If your goal is to play 2022 AAA PC games on the bus (and not on an oversized laptop), you can't really make a better console than the Steam Deck. There seem to be a few things that Nintendo/MS/Sony would make better. But it would not be the size or the battery life. 

If your goal is just to comfortably play great games on a dedicated handheld on the bus, then there are different choices you should make. Nintendo/Sony usually prioritize battery life and size for that reason, by sacrificing performance.

True there will always be compromises and sure portability makes other areas compromise even more (and that is one of the points on saying one of the biggest sacrifices they made was portability, with big device with short battery life).

Much is said about the flexibility of current dev tools, so perhaps they could make less performance for smaller device or more battery life (and on this as I said I would rather a device is a little bulkier for more battery).

And well on the portability and comfort the best bet is unfortunately cloud computing so you can have the best performance with less sacrifice (seems it work fine on 5G on Japan for Switch right? And Xbox Cloud seems to also been doing good on smartphones if I'm not wrong).



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It's going to be as popular as portable DVD players were. Cool tech, but games are better enjoyed elsewhere. And just like portable DVD players, streaming will soon make it obsolete or rather just as niche as portable DVD players are today.

Last edited by SvennoJ - on 11 February 2022

the-pi-guy said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes you can mess around with settings to try and get the performance you are most confortable with, still being able to make it 60fps with other compromises don't nulify the defense that 30fps isn't a problem anymore for PC gamers while for the longest of time bitching console games were inferior 30fps experiences. But why not give more battery if you already making it this big?

Sure there were close to 1 gen difference between the games on console and PSP and Vita. But if we want to go that way there will be a gen difference in quality between a top level gamer PC and Steam Deck don't you think? Also sure that if Vita launched earlier it would need bigger size and less battery, there is no magic, the earlier your device the least powerful for same size and consumption.

I would say the 3 would likely use the space likely better, there isn't much to be done on the APU itself because well neither Steam nor the other 3 develop their APU.

I think it is hard to say that performance was first when well that in itself would already remove portable being a choice =p

And just to make clear, although I have Switch I would more likely play steamdeck than it, will monitor the prices for when I'm able to buy it.

>But if we want to go that way there will be a gen difference in quality between a top level gamer PC and Steam Deck don't you think?

My point wasn't that the Vita/PSP were behind, and so will the Steam Deck be behind.

My point is for a portable you have to balance between performance, size, battery life (and release date technically).

Sony and Nintendo made performance, and release date sacrifices for a smaller portable console.

Valve is making size and battery life sacrifices for a more powerful console. 

If your goal is to play 2022 AAA PC games on the bus (and not on an oversized laptop), you can't really make a better console than the Steam Deck. There seem to be a few things that Nintendo/MS/Sony would make better. But it would not be the size or the battery life. 

If your goal is just to comfortably play great games on a dedicated handheld on the bus, then there are different choices you should make. Nintendo/Sony usually prioritize battery life and size for that reason, by sacrificing performance.