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SvennoJ on 02 December 2021

So after reading the thread a bit, yes: it can be daunting with how much stuff FH5 shows you that you can do.  The good news is that most of it is optional: nothing is really "locked" behind anything other than your rank.  You can pretty much do anything and rank up (speed zones, barn finds, races, events, etc.), and as you rank up, you can then keep unlocking more Horizon tiers which then unlock more stuff to do.  For reference, I did barely any story races, and instead focused on the endgame races (aptly named things like Goliath, Colossus, Marathon, etc.) because it's always been the endgame races that are intense, long races that take you across massive sections of the map.  For reference the Goliath is a 13 minute race

In fact, I didn't even do story races until after I had already completed all the showcases and endgame races.  The way the game is, it's sort of like BotW: as long as you're doing something, you'll progress.  As you progress, you have more to do.  You actually have all the cars you need to do literally everything right from the get-go.  How you do it is up to you: you basically have options.  And yes, most user-generated races kinda suck, but it's nice to have the option to create races and send them to your friends.

That also goes along with your statement about "wtf happened to gaming", though: options.  Put a dress on a man?  Sure, if you want to.  I see some people get bent out of shape over these things, but the modern era is all about options and open-endedness.  If someone WANTS to cross-dress, then the option is there for them.  It doesn't hurt me, it doesn't make my car slower, it doesn't make my food taste worse.  People get so caught up in mixing their political/sociological beliefs together that it's like they forget that they're not the only people on the planet.  I don't take you to be that type, actually, but yea, it's all about options.  The option is there for a trans to have a male character with a female name/voice wearing a dress.  It doesn't hurt me, and until the day it does, I see nothing wrong with it.

I have no issue with cross-dressing etc. I have an issue with all the bloat filling up my HDD with garments, emotes and other nonsense you don't see while racing.

If it's all about options, why only one body size and shape, no wheelchairs etc. Adding dresses and a third pronoun just makes the absence of the rest stand out. And why no option not to download the bloat :) My wtf happened to gaming is about the store of dresses in a racing game. But maybe I have pegged the game wrong, and it's not really a racing game. More a place to hang out with friends. I just miss PGR and Burnout Takedown!

Looking forward to the longer races.




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kirby007 on 02 December 2021

I adjusted the goliath for 5 laps, quit after 2 dont have the patience for hour long races anymore



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SvennoJ on 02 December 2021

Hmm since I turned online off or one of the other things, there is no traffic at all on the roads. Just empty, nothing. I'm the only driving car in Mexico lol.

It's not a setting, seems there just aren't many npc cars at all
https://racinggames.gg/forza/forza-horizon-5s-emptiness-is-a-real-problem/
I spotted a stopped ghosted car on the way to the next race, rest all empty, weird.

Does this mean anything? Just popped up and started counting down

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kirby007 on 02 December 2021

Hmm thats strange i felt going offline increased the traffic, to the point it kept fucking up skillstreaks



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SvennoJ on 03 December 2021

Maybe it's the part of the map, I did see a bit more traffic on the way to the Colossus race. Still very empty, less than 10 NPC cars on a 5 minute drive.

The Colossus race was a decent 16 minutes (still shorter than 2 laps on the Nurburgring). Nice to race around the map, yet the AI is rather weird. It wanted me to up the challenge a notch since I was winning easily, fine no problem. Yet while I was still easily faster through corners, on the straights they accelerate faster and have much higher top speed. They just zoom by and disappear ahead, slipstream not working (or not part of the arcade version) From easily winning to finishing 7th while driving a near flawless race staying on the road at top speed. The competition simply disappeared ahead in small groups, reverse rubber banding.

Time for a different car I guess. I was still using the Corvette Stingray it gave me at the start. I auto upgraded it to S1 [993] yet top speed is far far behind the competition which also accelerates 3x faster. I guess you're supposed to use one of the cars it recommends for the event as it doesn't seem to scale to what you use. Anyway great to have a longer race, was getting tired of the 2:30 victories, then 1 minute loading the next one. Now to unlock the other long ones!



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Kristof81 on 03 December 2021
kirby007 said:

Hmm thats strange i felt going offline increased the traffic, to the point it kept fucking up skillstreaks

I've noticed that too. It looks like in the online mode reduces the number of NPC cars ... for human driven cars, I guess. 



SvennoJ on 03 December 2021
Kristof81 said:
kirby007 said:

Hmm thats strange i felt going offline increased the traffic, to the point it kept fucking up skillstreaks

I've noticed that too. It looks like in the online mode reduces the number of NPC cars ... for human driven cars, I guess. 

Maybe I'm not actually offline, still thinks I'm offline but with the online cars turned off? I'm gonna see if I can actually play offline. Dodging cars at high speed is the most fun, need some cars on the road to dodge!



kirby007 on 03 December 2021
SvennoJ said:

Maybe it's the part of the map, I did see a bit more traffic on the way to the Colossus race. Still very empty, less than 10 NPC cars on a 5 minute drive.

The Colossus race was a decent 16 minutes (still shorter than 2 laps on the Nurburgring). Nice to race around the map, yet the AI is rather weird. It wanted me to up the challenge a notch since I was winning easily, fine no problem. Yet while I was still easily faster through corners, on the straights they accelerate faster and have much higher top speed. They just zoom by and disappear ahead, slipstream not working (or not part of the arcade version) From easily winning to finishing 7th while driving a near flawless race staying on the road at top speed. The competition simply disappeared ahead in small groups, reverse rubber banding.

Time for a different car I guess. I was still using the Corvette Stingray it gave me at the start. I auto upgraded it to S1 [993] yet top speed is far far behind the competition which also accelerates 3x faster. I guess you're supposed to use one of the cars it recommends for the event as it doesn't seem to scale to what you use. Anyway great to have a longer race, was getting tired of the 2:30 victories, then 1 minute loading the next one. Now to unlock the other long ones!

1 minute loads i feel you ( didn't you have quite a beastly laptob?), did you tune the gears by the way, I personally dipped away from the corvette early but see what long lower gears do for you



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SvennoJ on 03 December 2021
kirby007 said:
SvennoJ said:

Maybe it's the part of the map, I did see a bit more traffic on the way to the Colossus race. Still very empty, less than 10 NPC cars on a 5 minute drive.

The Colossus race was a decent 16 minutes (still shorter than 2 laps on the Nurburgring). Nice to race around the map, yet the AI is rather weird. It wanted me to up the challenge a notch since I was winning easily, fine no problem. Yet while I was still easily faster through corners, on the straights they accelerate faster and have much higher top speed. They just zoom by and disappear ahead, slipstream not working (or not part of the arcade version) From easily winning to finishing 7th while driving a near flawless race staying on the road at top speed. The competition simply disappeared ahead in small groups, reverse rubber banding.

Time for a different car I guess. I was still using the Corvette Stingray it gave me at the start. I auto upgraded it to S1 [993] yet top speed is far far behind the competition which also accelerates 3x faster. I guess you're supposed to use one of the cars it recommends for the event as it doesn't seem to scale to what you use. Anyway great to have a longer race, was getting tired of the 2:30 victories, then 1 minute loading the next one. Now to unlock the other long ones!

1 minute loads i feel you ( didn't you have quite a beastly laptob?), did you tune the gears by the way, I personally dipped away from the corvette early but see what long lower gears do for you

With FS2020 at over 180 GB, there is not enough room left on my SSD to fit the 108 GB of FH5 next to FS2020, hence I'm playing it from a 7200 rpm mechanical drive :( If the directory was unlocked I could symbolic link the important files to my SSD or put on a ram disk. Maybe that's still possible. I'm monitoring FH5 in the performance monitor and it reads tons and tons of small files, very bad for HDD with the seek times.

I'm gonna move FS2020 to the HDD, that hardly accesses the drive while flying since it streams from the cloud and you're typically up in the air for hours. FH5 accesses the drive constantly. Just got to figure out how to do the swap without stuff breaking.

I switched to the McLaren, faster :) But I'll pick one of the recommended cars for races, better balance than racing an S2 car through a small town! I'm playing at a locked 72 fps, no tearing, no judder, lovely. I could go for 144 but that would mean lowering detail. 72 is prefect for me.



kirby007 on 03 December 2021

otherwise grab the divo quite expensive but really balanced



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