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How many subscribers does MS need for other companies to follow?

20 million 6 13.33%
 
30 million 4 8.89%
 
40 million 6 13.33%
 
50 million 13 28.89%
 
60 million 2 4.44%
 
70 million 1 2.22%
 
80 million 0 0%
 
90 million 1 2.22%
 
150 million + 12 26.67%
 
Total:45
LudicrousSpeed on 12 October 2021
Machiavellian said:
eva01beserk said:

I sure thse 2 games just exude quality and has to be why they dint even chart upon release and where mentioned for the wekend they launched. Now youre gona tell me ori is also AAA hundred million dev cost franchise. 

To be fair, if you are satisfied with those types of games then for you gamepass might actually be worth it. I myself wont bother with a game that can be played on my phone and thus think paying $120 a year for that level of quality is not worth it. 

Just wondering, so what motivates your decision is not the quality of the game but how much money was spent making it.  So if there were hundreds of games of the same quality as Ori, Psychonauts with lower budgets, you would dismiss that service but be content with a service that gives you Marvel Avengers of that quality.  As long as the budget of the games is high, who cares about the quality.  Well, to each their own.

It’s just a never ending cycle of goal post shifting. 82 and 87 metacritic sucks because the games aren’t AAA big budget blockbusters. But at the same time had MS bought Double Fine and canceled Psychonauts 2 so that they could make a big AAA game, that user would be up in arms about that. 

I’m scratching my head wondering how Gears Tactics isn’t AAA? I guess it seems niche because it’s a turn based strategy, but it has a lengthy campaign and tons of content and great graphics. But the dude talks about it like it’s Gears Pop. 



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eva01beserk on 12 October 2021
smroadkill15 said:
eva01beserk said:

I sure thse 2 games just exude quality and has to be why they dint even chart upon release and where mentioned for the wekend they launched. Now youre gona tell me ori is also AAA hundred million dev cost franchise. 

To be fair, if you are satisfied with those types of games then for you gamepass might actually be worth it. I myself wont bother with a game that can be played on my phone and thus think paying $120 a year for that level of quality is not worth it. 

Now these games must be in the charts to matter when they are day 1 on Game Pass, sure add another criteria to your list lol. I never claimed Ori was AAA, but it speaks volumes that you can't see the difference from the other 2 games. 

You're right, all Game Pass titles are mobile now. I thought I was playing Scarlet Nexus, but turned out to be Clash of Clans. How could we ever get by without your knowledge of gaming to grace us. 

No, by the srvice that is gamepass I know it cant chart but people are still playing it, i meant that where it not on gamepass that game would probably still not chart.  Because I seen a lot of reviwers use that excuse in a lot of titles like recnetly back 4 blood, they would say they would not recomend the game but if you already have gamepass then try it at no cost. This would not be needed where back 4 blood where good. 

I know you dint say that about ori. That was my mistake as that needed to end with a question mark. 

and I know your joking about scarlet nexus, but I clearly said MS titles are heading that way. and I also dint say all but the ones with a bigger budget will lean the free to play live service route. And yes, I know not all, imsure they will relese a couple across the gen that will deviate just to keep backlash away. Will certanly not be their best games. 



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LudicrousSpeed on 12 October 2021

Also what’s with this idea that GamePass is a failure if big third party megatons don’t launch day one onto it eventually? Since when do big movies or TV shows launch day one onto Netflix? They do on Disney, because they are Disney projects, and sometimes HBO, as a part of HBO’s push for Max.

MS has over 20 studios. They don’t need many big mega third party titles launching day one. They can put their own stuff out day one and continue sprinkling A/AA content day one with AAA third party stuff coming in whenever.



eva01beserk on 12 October 2021
Machiavellian said:
eva01beserk said:

I sure thse 2 games just exude quality and has to be why they dint even chart upon release and where mentioned for the wekend they launched. Now youre gona tell me ori is also AAA hundred million dev cost franchise. 

To be fair, if you are satisfied with those types of games then for you gamepass might actually be worth it. I myself wont bother with a game that can be played on my phone and thus think paying $120 a year for that level of quality is not worth it. 

Just wondering, so what motivates your decision is not the quality of the game but how much money was spent making it.  So if there were hundreds of games of the same quality as Ori, Psychonauts with lower budgets, you would dismiss that service but be content with a service that gives you Marvel Avengers of that quality.  As long as the budget of the games is high, who cares about the quality.  Well, to each their own.

Money is not a defining farctor for quality, is a big contributor but not the only one. Just look at nintendo as they spend the least out of any dev and make some of the best games each gen. Look at ninja theory with hellblade wich gave ther big publishers a run for their money back when it launch. Kenna just recently. Only thing a big budget will help with is that a 1000 dev team will have a better chance at impressing people than a 50 dev team. That small team can still kick some ass given the time and if they have the passion for the ip like they did for hellbalde. And on the other side you can spen all the money you want and switch teams and add devs and delay the product all you want and still have a crackdown on your hands. Money was not the issue there. just like avengers. I would say the issue with avengers was the service route they went. They could have made a simple story game and coast of the name recognition but they decided to go the service rout and cut all the content so they can drip feed you to keep you hoocked and paying. Just like MS is doing to halo. 



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kirby007 on 12 October 2021

eva I know you dont know shit about halo dont go the route of src by spouting nonsense



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eva01beserk on 12 October 2021
kirby007 said:

eva I know you dont know shit about halo dont go the route of src by spouting nonsense

Thats fair, i detest online shooters. I cant say I know much about it. But I hear people complaining. And that service issue comes out a lot. 



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kirby007 on 12 October 2021
eva01beserk said:
kirby007 said:

eva I know you dont know shit about halo dont go the route of src by spouting nonsense

Thats fair, i detest online shooters. I cant say I know much about it. But I hear people complaining. And that service issue comes out a lot. 

forza would have been a better example



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AJNShelton on 12 October 2021
Ryuu96 said:

Tbf to Netflix, their focus has always been TV-Shows more than movies while Disney is a movie studio first

I don't agree, for decades Disney has one of the biggest television networks in the US (ABC) and Buena Vista was the producer of one of the best tv shows ever



eva01beserk on 12 October 2021
kirby007 said:
eva01beserk said:

Thats fair, i detest online shooters. I cant say I know much about it. But I hear people complaining. And that service issue comes out a lot. 

forza would have been a better example

Sim games I know little of as well. But it was to my understanding that it was already a service type game. I brought up halo cuz it wasn't before and now it is. 



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chakkra on 12 October 2021
eva01beserk said:
kirby007 said:

forza would have been a better example

Sim games I know little of as well. But it was to my understanding that it was already a service type game. I brought up halo cuz it wasn't before and now it is. 

Well, I can bet my head that the Halo campaign will give you more hours of play time than plenty of games out there that cost you $70.  And about the multiplayer, I can bet you that millions of people will have fun with it for hundreds of hours, which cannot be said about some $70 games out there. Oh, and you realize that you do not need GP to play Halo Infinite, right?