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ice said:

I like the optimism For Infinite, even if Halo hasn’t reached 90 in over a decade (Reach)

The way I see it is this: Halo 4 had good singleplayer but shit multiplayer and got an 87 meta. Halo 5 had good multiplayer mechanics (though a poorly implemented MP lootbox system) but shit singleplayer and got an 84 meta. That tells me two things: 1. Good singleplayer is somewhat more important to critics than good multiplayer, and 2. If 343 can pull off both good singleplayer and good multiplayer in a single game they can bring Halo meta above 90 again.

Now I'm definitely hopeful that singleplayer will be better than Halo 5. The main reason that Halo 5's campaign was bad was the writing, and they dropped the Halo 5 writer, Brian Reed, soon after it released, and hired a Bioshock writer and a Batman Arkham writer to replace him as co Narrative Leads. That's already a positive sign. Add to that the fact that Joseph Staten, one of the Halo 1-3 writing leads, got brought in to oversee the campaign development last year. They also made several other smart choices for the campaign, a return to the classic art style, setting it on a Halo ring again, a return a more classic sounding soundtrack. I'm definitely hopeful that singleplayer will be much better than Halo 5 and probably Halo 4 as well. 

Multiplayer wise, they basically just need to copy Halo 5 mechanics, but remove the lootboxes, which we already heard they did (microtransactions are now non-randomized and cosmetic only, with in-game earning options for all of them). The rumors of a new Big Team Battle mode replacing Warzone also sound very promising to me. Another area where 5's MP suffered was not having enough maps on release, I'm hopeful that since they will have 6 years total to work on Halo Infinite (compared to 3 years for Halo 5), they will have had plenty of time to design a large number of maps for both arena (small scale) and this new Big Team Battle mode, plenty of weapons and vehicles and cosmetics as well hopefully. 

So yeah, I'm definitely hopeful that Halo Infinite can top Halo 4's 87 meta, which is why I predicted 89 for now. But I do think that 90+ is a possibility if they play their cards right. Hopefully the singleplayer graphics are a substantial leap when we see them again, that would certainly help lock in that 90+. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 26 January 2021

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shikamaru317 said:
ice said:

I like the optimism For Infinite, even if Halo hasn’t reached 90 in over a decade (Reach)

The way I see it is this: Halo 4 had good singleplayer but shit multiplayer and got an 87 meta. Halo 5 had good multiplayer mechanics (though a poorly implemented MP lootbox system) but shit singleplayer and got an 84 meta. That tells me two things: 1. Good singleplayer is somewhat more important to critics than good multiplayer, and 2. If 343 can pull off both good singleplayer and good multiplayer in a single game they can bring Halo meta above 90 again.

Now I'm definitely hopeful that singleplayer will be better than Halo 5. The main reason that Halo 5's campaign was bad was the writing, and they dropped the Halo 5 writer, Brian Reed, soon after it released, and hired a Bioshock writer and a Batman Arkham writer to replace him as co Narrative Leads. That's already a positive sign. Add to that the fact that Joseph Staten, one of the Halo 1-3 writing leads, got brought in to oversee the campaign development last year. They also made several other smart choices for the campaign, a return to the classic art style, setting it on a Halo ring again, a return a more classic sounding soundtrack. I'm definitely hopeful that singleplayer will be much better than Halo 5 and probably Halo 4 as well. 

Multiplayer wise, they basically just need to copy Halo 5 mechanics, but remove the lootboxes, which we already heard they did (microtransactions are now non-randomized and cosmetic only, with in-game earning options for all of them). The rumors of a new Big Team Battle mode replacing Warzone also sound very promising to me. Another area where 5's MP suffered was not having enough maps on release, I'm hopeful that since they will have 6 years total to work on Halo Infinite (compared to 3 years for Halo 5), they will have had plenty of time to design a large number of maps for both arena (small scale) and this new Big Team Battle mode, plenty of weapons and vehicles and cosmetics as well hopefully. 

So yeah, I'm definitely hopeful that Halo Infinite can top Halo 4's 87 meta, which is why I predicted 89 for now. But I do think that 90+ is a possibility if they play their cards right. Hopefully the singleplayer graphics are a substantial leap when we see them again, that would certainly help lock in that 90+. 

it's definitely in the realm of possibilities. They had the time, so they better deliver. I have hope that Halo and Gears will rejoin Forza in the 90+ club once again. (and Fable to get it's first 90)



Psychonauts 2 - 85

Grounded - 78

Flight Simulator - 88

Halo Infinite - 88

The Medium - 83

MechWarrior 5 - 70

CrossFire X - 74

Hello Neighbor 2 - 55

The Gunk - 85

Exomecha - 66

Scorn - 81

The Ascent - 78

Second Extinction - 68

Echo Generation - 84

Tunic - 70

Twelve Minutes - 78

Warhammer 40K: Darktide - 82

Shredders - 68

Sable - 82

Last Stop* ('The Last Stop' is something very different. Thanks for making me see that.) - 81



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
FloatingWaffles said:

Halo Infinite - 92

The Medium - 72

i'll update some of these when more gameplay/trailers come out because rn some of these still have hardly anything known 

Curse you! I wanted to have the most negative The Medium prediction!

Also, optimistic Halo Infinite score. Not overly optimistic per say, we don't really know enough about the title to know what it's reception will be (I have a feeling that the availability of it on Gamepass will also perhaps make some of it's shortcomings a little less damning than prior 343 titles). Out of curiosity though, what made you pick 92? Do you personally think it will be amazing, or just that critics will believe it to be so? That sounds condescending to the game but it's not meant to be lol !

hey well i'm not gonna have it either now since we've both already been undershot. we gotta keep going lower :P 

and if i'm being honest I don't actually expect it to hit 92 at all LMAO, perhaps not even 90 or even close. i'd just like to see it happen because this feels like Halo's last chance to become as big and relevant as it once was imo, 343i's Halo games have been good for the most part outside of some blunders (Halo 5's campaign was liquid ass) but it feels like none of them have managed to hit it out of the park yet and are too similar feeling, there's nothing big or new enough for anyone outside of those already invested in it to be drawn into, basically what Gears of War is in rn and why I think that desperately needs a break as well. so if after 5-6 years of development and a complete reinvention of the way the game works and it's still only just "good" like the other games, as weird as that sounds, instead of great or incredible then it'll still be good sure but it'll put into question even more all that development time, and I just don't think it'll be enough to broaden the franchise past the faithful again for what Microsoft and 343i are hoping for with a "spiritual reboot" and fresh start. it really needs to hit it perfectly like God of War did imo so i'm just trying to be optimistic. ;_;

I could be completely wrong tho and putting more pressure on this than needed 

Last edited by FloatingWaffles - on 26 January 2021

Shaunodon said:

Psychonauts 2 - 85

Grounded - 78

Flight Simulator - 88

Halo Infinite - 88

The Medium - 83

MechWarrior 5 - 70

CrossFire X - 74

Hello Neighbor 2 - 55

The Gunk - 85

Exomecha - 66

Scorn - 81

The Ascent - 78

Second Extinction - 68

Echo Generation - 84

Tunic - 70

Twelve Minutes - 78

Warhammer 40K: Darktide - 82

Shredders - 68

Sable - 82

Last Stop* ('The Last Stop' is something very different. Thanks for making me see that.) - 81

Sorry about that. Blame Xbox Wire, they called it The Last Stop on their list of 2021 Xbox exclusives:

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/01/15/2021-xbox-exclusive-games/

Fixing it in the OP now. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 26 January 2021

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I will add everybody's predictions to the OP later tonight.



shikamaru317 said:
Shaunodon said:

Last Stop* ('The Last Stop' is something very different. Thanks for making me see that.) - 81

Sorry about that. Blame Xbox Wire, they called it The Last Stop on their list of 2021 Xbox exclusives:

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/01/15/2021-xbox-exclusive-games/

Fixing it in the OP now. 

Haha, no problem. Just hope someone else is curious enough to check it out now. Don't plan on sleeping tonight if you do.



Updated the OP with the latest votes.

Reminder, The Medium review embargo drops in less than 7 hours, get your predictions in soon.



Libara said:
Ryotsu said:

All yellow

Think he was asking for an educated prediction, not what you desperately hope will happen.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/sea-of-thieves

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/crackdown-3

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/battletoads

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/gears-of-war-ultimate-edition-for-windows-10

https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/ryse-son-of-rome

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/microsoft-flight-simulator/user-reviews

https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/xbox-fitness

https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/the-falconeer

https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/super-luckys-tale

Last edited by Ryotsu - on 27 January 2021

Ryotsu said:
Libara said:

Think he was asking for an educated prediction, not what you desperately hope will happen.

That list

You going to make some predictions beyond "äll yellow" or na?