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Intrinsic on 05 December 2020

Even better @src 



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PotentHerbs on 05 December 2020

I think GT7 is a wildcard for this generation.

While Spiderman might enter 30+ Million territory with the PS5 remaster, God of War & Uncharted are around that 20+ Million tier, which is where I think GT7 can leg itself into. A spinoff GT is reportedly close to 10+ Million and that's with poor critical reception in comparison to GT franchise standards. Considering this is a full fledged GT coming early in the PS5's lifecycle, the fact Sony dominates in GT's most popular region, the unique features of the Dualsense and how it intertwines with the racing genre, and the franchise traditional evergreen sales, it might be the perfect storm for GT7 to reach 20+ Million sales.



Robert_Downey_Jr. on 06 December 2020

Sony titles finally getting that second gen of gamers in the family Nintendo boost. Gotta be around for awhile and then everyone starts loving you



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pikashoe on 07 December 2020

Probably a dumb question, but when a game is free on ps plus do those downloads count towards sales of the game?



DonFerrari on 07 December 2020
PotentHerbs said:

I think GT7 is a wildcard for this generation.

While Spiderman might enter 30+ Million territory with the PS5 remaster, God of War & Uncharted are around that 20+ Million tier, which is where I think GT7 can leg itself into. A spinoff GT is reportedly close to 10+ Million and that's with poor critical reception in comparison to GT franchise standards. Considering this is a full fledged GT coming early in the PS5's lifecycle, the fact Sony dominates in GT's most popular region, the unique features of the Dualsense and how it intertwines with the racing genre, and the franchise traditional evergreen sales, it might be the perfect storm for GT7 to reach 20+ Million sales.

I would love a GT coming back to life, it was able to sell 10M ever since PS1 and reach almost 15M in one entry (and GT5 if you pick also prologue sales passed 15M), if they series experience a growth similar to the other studios then GT could reach 20M (I think it is unlikely, but who knows).

pikashoe said:

Probably a dumb question, but when a game is free on ps plus do those downloads count towards sales of the game?

Nope, they count sales not downloads. If they counted downloads UC4 would probably be over 50M as it was also gave away in PS+, and most of the exclusives weren't gave away in PS+.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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NoCtiS_NoX on 10 December 2020
Intrinsic said:

OP, try this format instead if this is a thread you plan on updating for the foreseeable future. Should make it easier to follow.

TITLERELEASE DATESALESPROOF
Uncharted 4201617-20Mlink
The Last of Us2013, 201420- 22Mlink
God of War201815-20Mlink

You can even color code the title/sales. Eg Blue = 20M+sellers, green = 15M- 19.9M...etc.

Just make for easier reading. Great thread.

src said:

TITLERELEASE DATESALES UPDATE (mon)
SALESPROOF
Uncharted 420163616+https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf
The Last of Us2013, 20148420+https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf
God of War20182415-20https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf
Spiderman20191213+https://www.marvel.com/articles/games/marvels-spider-man-ps4-sold-over-13-million-units-worldwide
Horizon Zero Dawn20192410+https://blog.playstation.com/2019/02/28/horizon-zero-dawn-celebrates-second-anniversary-10-million-copies-sold-worldwide/
Ghost of Tsushima202045+https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/technology/sony-playstation-5-ps5.html
Ratchet and Clank2016265+https://www.resetera.com/threads/rachet-clank-2016-is-insomniacs-most-successful-game.53348/
GT Sport20173611.7+ playershttps://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?stat_preset=nb_players_by_country
TLOU II20200.14+https://blog.playstation.com/2020/06/26/the-last-of-us-part-ii-sells-more-than-4-million-copies/
FF7R202045+https://square-enix-games.com/en_GB/news/final-fantasy-vii-remake-shipments-sales

Thank you! 

I already Updated the Original Post. 



mjk45 on 11 December 2020
src said:

I think it would be wise to build a database of historic SIE sales. From all generations. Since the info is so piecemeal it would be a massive advantage having a single database showing it all.

Ratchet and Clank, > 5 million, (Insomniac said it was their best selling game ever before Spiderman).
Bloodborne , Zhuge, 2 million+ in NA alone
Gran Turismo, entire history of sales was released by PD, no info on Sport bar 8-10 million players.

The interesting thing about Gran Turismo is  like you said they had the sales of all their games on the website and updated them regularly, but stopped with sport .

I wonder if they being alone with regards to having the sales on their site had something to do with their unique status among Sony studios. that being they are a subsidiary with their own board.



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KazumaKiryu on 11 December 2020
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Intrinsic said:

OP, try this format instead if this is a thread you plan on updating for the foreseeable future. Should make it easier to follow.

TITLERELEASE DATESALESPROOF
Uncharted 4201617-20Mlink
The Last of Us2013, 201420- 22Mlink
God of War201815-20Mlink

You can even color code the title/sales. Eg Blue = 20M+sellers, green = 15M- 19.9M...etc.

Just make for easier reading. Great thread.

src said:

TITLERELEASE DATESALES UPDATE (mon)
SALESPROOF
Uncharted 420163616+https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf
The Last of Us2013, 20148420+https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf
God of War20182415-20https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/irday/pdf/2019/GNS_E.pdf
Spiderman20191213+https://www.marvel.com/articles/games/marvels-spider-man-ps4-sold-over-13-million-units-worldwide
Horizon Zero Dawn20192410+https://blog.playstation.com/2019/02/28/horizon-zero-dawn-celebrates-second-anniversary-10-million-copies-sold-worldwide/
Ghost of Tsushima202045+https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/technology/sony-playstation-5-ps5.html
Ratchet and Clank2016265+https://www.resetera.com/threads/rachet-clank-2016-is-insomniacs-most-successful-game.53348/
GT Sport20173611.7+ playershttps://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?stat_preset=nb_players_by_country
TLOU II20200.14+https://blog.playstation.com/2020/06/26/the-last-of-us-part-ii-sells-more-than-4-million-copies/
FF7R202045+https://square-enix-games.com/en_GB/news/final-fantasy-vii-remake-shipments-sales

Thanks for this interesting Thread and Updates :)



DonFerrari on 11 December 2020
mjk45 said:
src said:

I think it would be wise to build a database of historic SIE sales. From all generations. Since the info is so piecemeal it would be a massive advantage having a single database showing it all.

Ratchet and Clank, > 5 million, (Insomniac said it was their best selling game ever before Spiderman).
Bloodborne , Zhuge, 2 million+ in NA alone
Gran Turismo, entire history of sales was released by PD, no info on Sport bar 8-10 million players.

The interesting thing about Gran Turismo is  like you said they had the sales of all their games on the website and updated them regularly, but stopped with sport .

I wonder if they being alone with regards to having the sales on their site had something to do with their unique status among Sony studios. that being they are a subsidiary with their own board.

Perhaps PD had authorization to put the sales numbers because they were the studio that was selling many times over the others.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

src on 11 December 2020
mjk45 said:
src said:

I think it would be wise to build a database of historic SIE sales. From all generations. Since the info is so piecemeal it would be a massive advantage having a single database showing it all.

Ratchet and Clank, > 5 million, (Insomniac said it was their best selling game ever before Spiderman).
Bloodborne , Zhuge, 2 million+ in NA alone
Gran Turismo, entire history of sales was released by PD, no info on Sport bar 8-10 million players.

The interesting thing about Gran Turismo is  like you said they had the sales of all their games on the website and updated them regularly, but stopped with sport .

I wonder if they being alone with regards to having the sales on their site had something to do with their unique status among Sony studios. that being they are a subsidiary with their own board.

I think you may be right. PD iirc is the only dev team with members on the Playstation board as well: Kazunori Yamauchi. I don't know why SIE is so reluctant to give individual sales regularly. 

They have made a big improvement by now providing quarterly 1st party sales.