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GOTG deserves insane sales. Even thought its being beat by a couple previous gen games 🤣 aka BoTW, GTA5 and Minecraft



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DonFerrari said:
src said:
Sony's 1st party are now above nearly every third party offering on Playstation and are nearing Nintendo levels. That's unprecedented, since Playstation also has the bulk of third party sales. We haven't seen a synergy like this since Nintendo in the NES/SNES days. 20M + : TLOU, UC, GOW, SM10M+ : Horizon, Ghost, GT, 5-10M : RC, DS, DG, Demons Souls

Don't do that, you are going to attract a lot of heat from "don't dare compare PS exclusives to Nintendo, Animal Crossing done 20M while GoT done 5M"

I mean, it sounds like you're mocking that reasoning but .... that's completely true. They aren't at Nintendo level. They'd be at or even above Nintendo level if we were comparing it to the Wii era (if we weren't including separately sold Wii series games, which is kind of unfair, a product is a product but oh well). But they aren't at the Switch's level, it's not even deniable really, think even NPD's analysts have said there's no system that has sold exclusives like the Switch. Animal Crossing is a good example, to be fair, as that will probably do 30M in a year. A year. 

Nogamez said:
GOTG deserves insane sales. Even thought its being beat by a couple previous gen games 🤣 aka BoTW, GTA5 and Minecraft

Breath of the Wild is not previous gen. Let's not do this. 



Well if you choose to see stuff that way, you also have to admit that compared to Microsoft and Sony games, Nintendo games face much less competition from third parties. It doesn't make Nintendo games sell not look impressive but it should be taken into account. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I mean, it sounds like you're mocking that reasoning but .... that's completely true. They aren't at Nintendo level. They'd be at or even above Nintendo level if we were comparing it to the Wii era (if we weren't including separately sold Wii series games, which is kind of unfair, a product is a product but oh well). But they aren't at the Switch's level, it's not even deniable really, think even NPD's analysts have said there's no system that has sold exclusives like the Switch. Animal Crossing is a good example, to be fair, as that will probably do 30M in a year. A year. 


 

Well if you choose to see stuff that way, you also have to admit that compared to Microsoft and Sony games, Nintendo games face much less competition from third parties. It doesn't make Nintendo games sell not look impressive but it should be taken into account. 



Cohh said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I mean, it sounds like you're mocking that reasoning but .... that's completely true. They aren't at Nintendo level. They'd be at or even above Nintendo level if we were comparing it to the Wii era (if we weren't including separately sold Wii series games, which is kind of unfair, a product is a product but oh well). But they aren't at the Switch's level, it's not even deniable really, think even NPD's analysts have said there's no system that has sold exclusives like the Switch. Animal Crossing is a good example, to be fair, as that will probably do 30M in a year. A year. 


 

Well if you choose to see stuff that way, you also have to admit that compared to Microsoft and Sony games, Nintendo games face much less competition from third parties. It doesn't make Nintendo games sell not look impressive but it should be taken into account. 

I mean I don't "choose to see stuff that way", to say otherwise would just be literally false based on the evidence of sales figures. 

But yes, of course Nintendo faces less competition in comparison. They are more isolationist compared to other platform holders. 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
DonFerrari said:
src said:
Sony's 1st party are now above nearly every third party offering on Playstation and are nearing Nintendo levels. That's unprecedented, since Playstation also has the bulk of third party sales. We haven't seen a synergy like this since Nintendo in the NES/SNES days. 20M + : TLOU, UC, GOW, SM10M+ : Horizon, Ghost, GT, 5-10M : RC, DS, DG, Demons Souls

Don't do that, you are going to attract a lot of heat from "don't dare compare PS exclusives to Nintendo, Animal Crossing done 20M while GoT done 5M"

I mean, it sounds like you're mocking that reasoning but .... that's completely true. They aren't at Nintendo level. They'd be at or even above Nintendo level if we were comparing it to the Wii era (if we weren't including separately sold Wii series games, which is kind of unfair, a product is a product but oh well). But they aren't at the Switch's level, it's not even deniable really, think even NPD's analysts have said there's no system that has sold exclusives like the Switch. Animal Crossing is a good example, to be fair, as that will probably do 30M in a year. A year. 

Nogamez said:
GOTG deserves insane sales. Even thought its being beat by a couple previous gen games 🤣 aka BoTW, GTA5 and Minecraft

Breath of the Wild is not previous gen. Let's not do this. 

I'm mocking the need to go and say that Sony isn't approaching Nintendo on sales of their first party. He didn't say it is the same level, he just saying that it is nearing. Pick PS3 the best seller was a little over 10M and most titles would be 1-2M. In PS4 almost all entries have improved in sales (including new IPs from devs that had lot lower sales before).

Anyone saying Sony 1st party have reached iconic status of Mario certainly can be mocked, but for me to deny that Sony isn't nearing Nintendo level because AC done much better than PS4 exclusives also deserves mocking. Because people that do that would be pissed if you then said that compared to Minecraft and GTA Nintendo games are niche level.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
BraLoD said:
foodfather said:
While I don't quite believe the numbers it is easily the best exclusive game that I have played, I absolutely hated the series before, but the feeling I felt playing it was just like how it was first time I played TLOU. I'm glad its the best selling in the franchise. I can't wait to see more of it.

Which numbers exactly you don't believe into?

The series growth (22/29/51) is all official data. The ~20M is a good estimate based on that and previous games already consolidated official sales.

It doesn't get much lower than that.

The fact that those other games were on previous gen and so much time have passed makes the last official numbers probably very close to current LTD. So yep almost all the sales in between were for GoW 2018, that is why it should be very near 20M (sure some can be attributed to promotional deals or bundles but how many games got so much from this without being games that people really wanted to buy?)

We have GoW3 Remastered too. Don't think it sold a lot but it was a game released for the PS4.



BraLoD said:
DonFerrari said:
BraLoD said:
foodfather said:
While I don't quite believe the numbers it is easily the best exclusive game that I have played, I absolutely hated the series before, but the feeling I felt playing it was just like how it was first time I played TLOU. I'm glad its the best selling in the franchise. I can't wait to see more of it.

Which numbers exactly you don't believe into?

The series growth (22/29/51) is all official data. The ~20M is a good estimate based on that and previous games already consolidated official sales.

It doesn't get much lower than that.

The fact that those other games were on previous gen and so much time have passed makes the last official numbers probably very close to current LTD. So yep almost all the sales in between were for GoW 2018, that is why it should be very near 20M (sure some can be attributed to promotional deals or bundles but how many games got so much from this without being games that people really wanted to buy?)

We have GoW3 Remastered too. Don't think it sold a lot but it was a game released for the PS4.

True, but there was enough time between GoW3R and GoW2018. But yes in the end there is little chance that it won't sell 20M.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Sony is not at Nintendo's level but is nearing it.

  1. 30M+:
    1. AC, MK (2)
  2. 20M+:
    1. Zelda, Pokemon, Mario 3D, SSB (4)
    2. TLOU, UC, SM, GOW (4)
  3. 10-15M:
    1. Splatoon, Mario Party, Pokemon spin off (3)
    2. Horizon, Ghost of Tsushima, FF7R (3)
  4. 5-10M:
    1. LM3, MM, Mario 3D remaster, Ringfit (4)
    2. Days Gone, Death Stranding, Ratchet and Clank, Demons Souls (4)

Now total 1st party software sales, Nintendo is still notably ahead, but my point was that Sony has almost equal 1st party IP strength while having every third party competing in their ecosystem. Hence why this is unprecedented since the SNES/NES days. To out it into perspective, PS4 is approaching 1.5 billion total games sold. SW is at 450 million.



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