Ever watch the show King of the Hill? Mike Judge is an absolute genius at depicting these kinds of subculture.

In the show, you had Dale Gribble who was a conspiracy theorist. It was viewed a bit more as a harmless eccentricity back in those days, but he would have absolutely been a Qanon supporter in 2020. The irony that Judge nails is that while Dale is inherently skeptical to the point of absurdity of the government, he is gullible to a fault of just about anyone else. The most obvious thing being that is wife is cheating on him and his son is clearly native American, yet Dale is completely oblivious. 

And that's the situation here. Anything from the "establishment" is automatically rejected, but the guy who was running a fraudulent university and changes tornado paths with sharpie? Seems legit. 

If it's constitutional it should be acceptable - although i will say 93% turnout for Hawaii seems really damn high.Maybe there was fishy business.

I haven't seen much King of The Hill, a few episodes here and there but i have watched Mike Judges movie Idiocracy and that seems to be where we are headed.

I also watched Idiocracy recently. The most unrealistic thing about the movie was how they put the smart person immediately in a top position for being smart.

Constitutional really doesn't have anything to do with it. The constitution is not like a complete rulebook of the United States or a moral guide. Most issues have nothing really to do with the constitution. And even if something is constitutional, that doesn't mean it's acceptable. For instance, the Supreme Court ruled that publicizing the name of a rape victim is constitutionally protected speech, but that doesn't mean doing so is acceptable. Plenty of other incredibly shitty things you could do that are not forbidden by the constitution.

Whether or not their actions were legal is likely a matter of state law, but whether or not these and other actions trying to undermine democracy are legal, they are unacceptable in my view.

So the grape line says that President Trump last ploy will happen on Jan 6th when Pence count the electoral college vote. It seems there are a few in congress that will object to certain states EC votes which they believe will then get them into a Senate and House vote where Trump will be declared the winner. Since the Reps control the Senate they believe this is a win and because a vote in the house is by state and not how many reps they will also win their as well. So hold on tight and get your popcorn, dip or whatever as things seem like it will get interesting for one last blast. The funny part about this is if all those EC votes get tossed and Congress does not come to a conclusion (Dems can just not show up for a vote, leave the country etc.) Pelosi would then become president after the dust settles.

I know this is bad but I would totally laugh my ass off if after all this political BS, the GOP end up putting Pelosi in the president office.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/america-votes/fact-check-is-the-choice-of-the-next-u-s-president-up-to-mike-pence-now-1.5233798

That's not accurate at all. The only time that the house votes by delegation is if no president receives enough electoral votes. If there is an objection, that's a standard majority vote. Just more misinformation from the cult. 

Trust me, I already read the fact check on the claims, but I still believe we will see a few heads in the House pull this move for pub more than anything else. Lets not forget that whole Texas lawsuit in which you know they all understood it was BS but they wanted to get that pub for supporting the President.  This will be the same situation as well.

I mean... they can, but all that will happen is the house will vote it down. Then everyone in the GOP is in the position of casting a purely symbolic vote to overturn the election results that will galvanize democrats or republicans with common sense, or vote against it and upset Trump's cult. An individual house member may be willing to do this because if their district is crazy enough, they can do that and still win. But on a Senate level, it's a no win situation as Bandorr pointed out. If the Senate actually voted for it, they further galvanize democrats and turn off moderate republicans. If they vote against it, the Trump cult will drift further from the GOP. Politically, it doesn't really serve any Senator. Trump's support is not worth more than the GOP.

True it does not serve any Senator to go along with this crazy scheme but you only need one on both parties to pitch this on Jan 6th and then all hell breaks loose.  You would have to believe that McConnel still have a iron clad hand on his party but I actually see a few cracks.  There are just to many nut cases willing to play this gambit all the way to the finish line and unfortunately I believe we are headed directly there.  Anyway, nothing is going to go anywhere until we get that House and Senate letter for both houses looking to object to the EC votes, without that well anything that happens on Jan 6 would not even get to a vote.

Meaning that anyone who is willing to play this gambit has to play their cards ahead of Jan 6th not on that day.  I would be even dumber stunt to go down this route with nothing but a symbolic objection and then everyone say "OK, lets move on".

It's not just about McConnell though, I don't see the benefit for any particular Senator. I mean, Lindsey Graham would toss Trump's salad on the Senate floor if he thought it would help him, but what's in it for him to go along with this? All they could do is delay it two hours per state they objected to. It would be a pain in the ass, but not much more. Even if they objected to every state Biden won it wouldn't actually change anything.

I think you're confusing sycophants in the Senate who will publicly go along with anything Trump says for people who actually believe his bullshit. At the end of the day, what they care about is themselves, and I don't see how attempting this would help any Senator.