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hopefully turns out true.

*edit:
Apparently Bidens own people, have data anaylsers, that look at data and can project how things will turn out (with the remaining votes to be counted). They got it to around 160k-175k (for biden).



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JRPGfan said:



13k... gap remains.

*IF* the last 49k+ go the same way ~65% biden (rest to trump), this would be enough for Biden to take it, by 2,000-3,000 votes.

Either candidate can request a recount if the gap is within .5% in Georgia so ideally Biden would get enough votes to have a .6% or better lead.



If you give almost 2% of the outstanding 550k mail ballots to 3rd parties, Biden needs almost 61% of what remains to take the lead. And most of these ballots are in Philadelphia, which is going 80-20 for Biden, and even higher for its mail-in. I think Biden will win the state.



Barozi said:
Peh said:

He only needs one state to win, doesn't matter which one. So if he keeps his lead in Nevada, he won.

I think you're looking at a map where Arizona is already claimed for Biden.

He's realistiacally at 253 electoral votes so he needs 17 more.

Nevada's only worth 6, so if he loses the rest, he won't get to 270.

He needs at minimum one of the following combinations:

Nevada + Arizona (270)
Nevada + Georgia (275)
Arizona + Georgia (280)
Pennsylvania (273)

Indeed I am. There are still 12 % of expected votes open and he leads with 68k votes. I am looking at Politico.com.

I suppose it is 90% likely that he wins it. Even if Trump closes in slowly.  



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Mr_Destiny said:

If you give almost 2% of the outstanding 550k mail ballots to 3rd parties, Biden needs almost 61% of what remains to take the lead. And most of these ballots are in Philadelphia, which is going 80-20 for Biden, and even higher for its mail-in. I think Biden will win the state.

Bidens own people, did the math on the remaining votes and their area's.
They got it to about a 160-175k win for Biden.

Its basically in the bag... it just needs to actually be counted now to show it.
(instead of just being projections based on math)

SENATOR BOB CASEY has also come out and said, hes sure Biden takes it by over 100k.



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iron_megalith said:

Regardless who wins this, this shit is disgusting to me. It's like I'm back in my third world country where election tallies take weeks to process. For fuck's sakes Florida nailed it down on time. States like PA were saying they will be releasing results 6 days after the election. Also, stopping counting for long periods of hours just further annoys me.

I will maintain my stance and say that mail-in voting didn't help with maintaining integrity in this election. I don't care what other people say, I will die on this hill.

The law over counting mail-in varies by state. Florida allowed the count to start weeks ago. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and (I think) Wisconsin bar counting those ballots until election day, or even until polls close. And the Republican legislatures declined to change the law to ensure a faster count.



sales2099 said:
vivster said:
Biden says we shouldn't treat the other party as our enemies. But... they are. I don't even live in that country and they're lowering my quality of life.

Kinda goes against dems being the “tolerant” political view. Try to focus on what can unite both sides instead of focusing on the hate. You can never have unity again if this mentality is the new norm. 

I can assure you they are not lowering your quality of life. I’m sure your breakfast tastes the same and mattress is as soft as advertised ;)

Must be nice to only worry about breakfast and your mattress when climate change and extremism is on the rise world wide.

Being intolerant towards intolerance is part of being tolerant. Everything else is semantics. Respecting Nazis will not decrease racism. We kinda learned that already here in Germany and one would think the Americans oughta learned it by then too.

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Mr_Destiny said:

The law over counting mail-in varies by state. Florida allowed the count to start weeks ago. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and (I think) Wisconsin bar counting those ballots until election day, or even until polls close. And the Republican legislatures declined to change the law to ensure a faster count.

I have a feeling that the Pennsylvania legislature might have been hoping that the Supreme Court would allow them to throw out any ballots received in the post after election day itself, and that the race would be tight enough that it could swing it for Trump. However, it looks like postal voters got their ballot papers off in plenty of time, as the number of ballot papers that have come in yesterday and today is apparently pretty minimal.



sales2099 said:
vivster said:
Biden says we shouldn't treat the other party as our enemies. But... they are. I don't even live in that country and they're lowering my quality of life.

Kinda goes against dems being the “tolerant” political view. Try to focus on what can unite both sides instead of focusing on the hate. You can never have unity again if this mentality is the new norm. 

I can assure you they are not lowering your quality of life. I’m sure your breakfast tastes the same and mattress is as soft as advertised ;)

Here's the difference though... aside from the double standard.

A random person on a message board is, in your estimation, treating the other side as "enemies", but the actual leadership of the parties, including its leader, is urging tolerance, respect, and unity.

On the other hand, the leadership of the republican party has spent four years vilifying anyone on the other side.

You can find individuals on either side that don't meet your standards of tolerance. But, if you look at the people who the parties are actually willing to vote for, you see the difference.



vivster said:
sales2099 said:

Kinda goes against dems being the “tolerant” political view. Try to focus on what can unite both sides instead of focusing on the hate. You can never have unity again if this mentality is the new norm. 

I can assure you they are not lowering your quality of life. I’m sure your breakfast tastes the same and mattress is as soft as advertised ;)

Must be nice to only worry about breakfast and your mattress when climate change and extremism is on the rise world wide.

Being intolerant towards intolerance is part of being tolerant. Everything else is semantics. Respecting Nazis will not decrease racism. We kinda learned that already here in Germany and one would think the Americans oughta learned it by then too.

I will not respect people who want to harm me on purpose.

You said your own personal quality of life. I stand by my post. The trick is to not lump in the masses with the bad people. Assuming everyone on the other side is the same then that’s part of the problem. 



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