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How many hours do you use your consoles each week?

40+ hours 7 33.33%
 
30-40 hours 3 14.29%
 
20-30 hours 2 9.52%
 
10-20 hours 9 42.86%
 
Total:21
sales2099 said:
SvennoJ said:

China is also making all our toys and clothes and recycling our waste...

Per capita is indeed not fair, the actual CO2 footprint of the average Chinese is much lower, while those in Europe and NA are much higher.

Just seems like moving the goal posts. The average footprint of euro countries may be higher, but these are countries with populations that are a fraction of China. China still has an addiction to using coal for energy. Total pollution per country is imo the most important factor as how much a society breeds is definitely part of the problem. Each life consists of several decades of consuming resources.

So ultimately, Europe is actually more environmentally conscious for the simple reason they don’t breed like rabbits ;)

Not sure where you get you antiquated information from but neither is China. China's population growth is 0.6%, Europe 0.3%, USA 0.7%
South Sudan is the highest atm with 3.83% (Africa is where the current population 'boom' is)

The average European consumes 4000 kwh electricity a year, same as for China.
The average European consumes 80kg of meat a year, the average Chinese 55kg.

Btw, coal isn't necessarily worse than other fossil fuels, plus they need all that power to make our toys...
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/5/15/15634538/china-coal-cleaner 

Europe a fraction of China, there's 741 million people in Europe!



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If we going on a problematic of scale. The production process of any of the goods is infinitely worst than almost anything you could do to worsen your carbon footprint. Though not an excuse of course since we're billions of individuals on this planet anyway ....



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sales2099 said:
SvennoJ said:

China is also making all our toys and clothes and recycling our waste...

Per capita is indeed not fair, the actual CO2 footprint of the average Chinese is much lower, while those in Europe and NA are much higher.

Just seems like moving the goal posts. The average footprint of euro countries may be higher, but these are countries with populations that are a fraction of China. China still has an addiction to using coal for energy. Total pollution per country is imo the most important factor as how much a society breeds is definitely part of the problem. Each life consists of several decades of consuming resources.

So ultimately, Europe is actually more environmentally conscious for the simple reason they don’t breed like rabbits ;)

Yes lets compare 1B population country with the size bigger than Europe, to individual countries total that would have 5% population or size, makes total sense



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Just seems like moving the goal posts. The average footprint of euro countries may be higher, but these are countries with populations that are a fraction of China. China still has an addiction to using coal for energy. Total pollution per country is imo the most important factor as how much a society breeds is definitely part of the problem. Each life consists of several decades of consuming resources.

So ultimately, Europe is actually more environmentally conscious for the simple reason they don’t breed like rabbits ;)

Yes lets compare 1B population country with the size bigger than Europe, to individual countries total that would have 5% population or size, makes total sense

That’s kinda my point. I say keep it simple, have a list of worst offender countries and try to moderate their output. 



 

 

Mar1217 said:
If we going on a problematic of scale. The production process of any of the goods is infinitely worst than almost anything you could do to worsen your carbon footprint. Though not an excuse of course since we're billions of individuals on this planet anyway ....

Yep I would say that no matter how much you game hardly would have a higher impact than the production of the console itself



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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sales2099 said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes lets compare 1B population country with the size bigger than Europe, to individual countries total that would have 5% population or size, makes total sense

That’s kinda my point. I say keep it simple, have a list of worst offender countries and try to moderate their output. 

And them demand China to achieve some unreal metric that would make it pollute similar to England let's say?

Per capita would be something reasonable, or we can just break China into 50 different states and them see how they compare to European countries.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Doesn't make any sense to stop gaming and watching TV instead, or surf the web.

You can be more conscious about your carbon usage, but it's not simple like stop doing something.

It's like let's ban straws, but keep delivering milk and coke on plastic bottles. Why can't we go back to glass bottles? It wasn't long ago when I was buying glass bottles of Coke.

Or those who eat vegan for the environment, but buy brand new shining Nike shoes every 3 months after throwing the used ones away. Shouldn't we all go back to those good black leather shoes that last ten years?



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you living in a house ruins the environment( foundations must be dug destroying the local ecosystems, changing the topology of the environment, waste disposal systems also cause damage, you cause light pollution with your security lights etc etc etc), driving a car pollutes the environment for obvious reasons...

when it comes to gaming, consider the materials that are used in the construction of games that are obtained true destruction means, gaming systems use excessive amounts of power and I've known many gamers who leave their systems running overnight or while away to farm materials

that's why I said previously that anything outside of living in the bush is destructive to the environment, so to me people who strive for a comfortable living assisted by technology and on top of that entertainment and recreation are quite hypocritical when they argue about how we could save the world if we could only bring the corporations under control