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Game_boy on 18 April 2008

I get a 5GB/month limit on downloads.

So after installing Vista SP1 and Ubuntu 8.04 this month, that was about it.
It's meant to be an 8mbit connection but I'm lucky if I get 1.6kbit (200kb).

And it's $40/month

BT sucks.



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ferret1094 on 18 April 2008
Game_boy said:
BT sucks.
 Not if you get a decent package it doesn't. Ours is bloody fast and there's NO LIMIT! Literally. No fair usage policy or any of that nonsense. I never have connection problems either. NTL are the worst I've ever been with and Toucan come a close second. I'd happily recommend BT Broadband to anyone. 

 



kingofwale on 18 April 2008
ferret1603 said:
It varies by provider and package here (UK). When I was with Toucan I got their supposedly unlimited package and every week they would email to say we'd exceeded capacity and it was being cut the next week. Now we're on BT's top package and it's awesome We can literally download, upload and stream stuff all day and night without any hassle from them at all.

 if it's "unlimited package", why was there a "capacity" to exceed? And for that matter, if you limit a "capacity", they should never call it "UN-Limited"

 Why aren't you guys complaining about it?



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
ferret1094 on 18 April 2008
kingofwale said:
ferret1603 said:
It varies by provider and package here (UK). When I was with Toucan I got their supposedly unlimited package and every week they would email to say we'd exceeded capacity and it was being cut the next week. Now we're on BT's top package and it's awesome We can literally download, upload and stream stuff all day and night without any hassle from them at all.

if it's "unlimited package", why was there a "capacity" to exceed? And for that matter, if you limit a "capacity", they should never call it "UN-Limited"

Why aren't you guys complaining about it?

It's standard here. They write it into the small print that although it's unlimited you're bound by "fair usage" whatever the hell that means. We complained and complained and complained and as soon as our contract was up we switched to BT. This is the package we're on: http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayTopic.do?topicId=15764

Again they claim a "fair usage policy applies" but we asked them to define that before we signed up and it actually doesn't. (No I don't understand either.) We've been using them since last September with no hassle at all. My fiance's a professional photographer so he's constantly emailing very large files. He's a baseball fan and as you can't get much on UK TV he's signed up to some US package and watches it streamed over the internet. I do a bit of graphic design work so I often send large files too and I download a lot of stuff so if we don't have problems neither should 99% of other people.



kingofwale on 18 April 2008
ferret1603 said:
kingofwale said:
ferret1603 said:
It varies by provider and package here (UK). When I was with Toucan I got their supposedly unlimited package and every week they would email to say we'd exceeded capacity and it was being cut the next week. Now we're on BT's top package and it's awesome We can literally download, upload and stream stuff all day and night without any hassle from them at all.

if it's "unlimited package", why was there a "capacity" to exceed? And for that matter, if you limit a "capacity", they should never call it "UN-Limited"

Why aren't you guys complaining about it?

It's standard here. They write it into the small print that although it's unlimited you're bound by "fair usage" whatever the hell that means. We complained and complained and complained and as soon as our contract was up we switched to BT. This is the package we're on: http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayTopic.do?topicId=15764

Again they claim a "fair usage policy applies" but we asked them to define that before we signed up and it actually doesn't. (No I don't understand either.) We've been using them since last September with no hassle at all. My fiance's a professional photographer so he's constantly emailing very large files. He's a baseball fan and as you can't get much on UK TV he's signed up to some US package and watches it streamed over the internet. I do a bit of graphic design work so I often send large files too and I download a lot of stuff so if we don't have problems neither should 99% of other people.


 Man, that is completely bull****, If there's a "fair usage" which restrict the amount you use, then it should NEVER be called "UN-limited", I'd open a class action lawsuit, I believe a similar lawsuit in US against Comcast won and now they have to refund a lot of money.

It's like saying it's an unlimited buffet, but you only get to eat 2 servings. 

 Also, they clearly stated that they throttle your service.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
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Aj_habfan on 18 April 2008

I never use Roger services, I use my trusty local Delta Cable Company.



Strategyking92 on 18 April 2008

Uh, does AT&T do this also? :-?



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ferret1094 on 19 April 2008
kingofwale said:
ferret1603 said:
kingofwale said:
ferret1603 said:
It varies by provider and package here (UK). When I was with Toucan I got their supposedly unlimited package and every week they would email to say we'd exceeded capacity and it was being cut the next week. Now we're on BT's top package and it's awesome We can literally download, upload and stream stuff all day and night without any hassle from them at all.

if it's "unlimited package", why was there a "capacity" to exceed? And for that matter, if you limit a "capacity", they should never call it "UN-Limited"

Why aren't you guys complaining about it?

It's standard here. They write it into the small print that although it's unlimited you're bound by "fair usage" whatever the hell that means. We complained and complained and complained and as soon as our contract was up we switched to BT. This is the package we're on: http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayTopic.do?topicId=15764

Again they claim a "fair usage policy applies" but we asked them to define that before we signed up and it actually doesn't. (No I don't understand either.) We've been using them since last September with no hassle at all. My fiance's a professional photographer so he's constantly emailing very large files. He's a baseball fan and as you can't get much on UK TV he's signed up to some US package and watches it streamed over the internet. I do a bit of graphic design work so I often send large files too and I download a lot of stuff so if we don't have problems neither should 99% of other people.


Man, that is completely bull****, If there's a "fair usage" which restrict the amount you use, then it should NEVER be called "UN-limited", I'd open a class action lawsuit, I believe a similar lawsuit in US against Comcast won and now they have to refund a lot of money.

It's like saying it's an unlimited buffet, but you only get to eat 2 servings.

Also, they clearly stated that they throttle your service.

I don't know if class action lawsuits exist in the UK. Anyone? I've certainly never heard of one and we don't have much of a litigation culture. I couldn't afford to take legal action anyway.

 



makingmusic476 on 19 April 2008

You guys have limits on how much you can download? We just pay for constant bandwidth, and can use it as much as we want.



kingofwale on 20 April 2008
makingmusic476 said:
You guys have limits on how much you can download? We just pay for constant bandwidth, and can use it as much as we want.

 as much as the US tech world loooves to whine about how slow their internet connect is comparing to Japan or Korea. Yes, you guys have one of the better competitive (at least in ISP) market than other countries. Monopoly in Canada is killing the internet market.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)