So vitamins are mostly a scam? I'm not against believing that, afterall money > people's lives, it's just interesting. My parents made me take vitamins when I was a kid, but I stopped and haven't had any problems in regards to vitamin D. I have dark skin and rarely go outside too.

So Anders Tegnell explained in an interview that the he believes the R-value will hover around 1 for some time and this Björn Smedman turned that into Tegnell wanting R to hover around 1. Now that's a spin.

Vitamins aren't really scam but your body doesn't absorb everything that says in vitamin.  It absorbs most but vitamins aren't as good as getting it through food.  My understanding is that your body can absorb vitamins from fruits and veggies better than from vitamins.  I still take once a day multi vitamin.  That's the only pill I take myself. 

Then why does like half of america, have Vitamin D deficiency? 

If spending like a hour outsides in the sun everyday fixed the issue, then why are so many people still haveing deficiency?
Does half of the american population just not spend that much time outsides every day?

I dont know... sounds easier to just ask people to take a pill.

That's not how science works and not how the virus behaves according to available evidence. Those 5 to 10% infected at the end of March have to come from somewhere without wildly turning the R0 factor up and down.

The assumption for R0 at 2.2 is backed up by plenty evidence. It's reflected in doubling rates of reported deaths at early stages (before social distancing and lock downs have effect) Much more reliable than one test where only half the respondents returned samples.

A follow up test would be helpful, but if it's not the same 446 test results that get compared, it's still very shaky. Comparisons between different biased samples are just as flawed. It would really help if they can track at least a thousand truly randomly chosen people and test them every 2 weeks to determine how it is spreading. A bigger sample size would be better, 1000 is still less than 0.1% of the population of Stockholm. Error factors in the tests, then comparing the results that are maybe in the hundreds with each other will amplify errors a lot. With those 446 approved tests only 44 would have been positive to come to that 10% or 100K infected claim. 2 false positives and your estimate is 9K off already. Comparing it with another sample multiplies the error rate.


People are comparing you to Denmark and Norway to show how many lives are saved by stricter measures. South Korea and Japan are managing, why not mimic them. Australia and New Zealand have eliminated community spread and now only have to worry about testing and tracing incoming travelers.

Where does it say half of Americans have deficiency?  I mean I could Google it but you could provide a news link.  Just seems way too high for me and I'm fucking high as a kite right now.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6075634/

Study from 2018.
found ~40% had deficiency of vitamin D.
39% of these people with deficiency where "Non-Hispanic African-Americans" (black) while they represent 16,5% of the population.
(ei. blacks make up disproportionate % of that) (same is true for Mexican-Americans, Hispanics ect) (lighter skin tone the less % you make up basically)

I've seen people quote 44%+, so I assume thats from a newer study.
Cant be arsed to look it up, but a large amount of people in the US have a vitamin D deficiency.

Enough for me to say "half".

Air pollution is much less now, that's a plus :)

Oh look at that, dairy nutrition site recommends: Those who consumed milk once or more per day had a higher average vitamin D level than those who consumed milk less than once per day (68 nmol/L vs. 59 nmol/L);



https://www.sciencealert.com/covid-deaths-are-being-linked-with-vitamin-d-deficiency-here-s-what-that-means

A vitamin commonly produced by sun-exposed skin cells might play a role in preventing death by the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, according to new research.

Preliminary results from a yet-to-be-peer-reviewed study carried out by scientists from the Queen Elizabeth Hospital Foundation Trust and the University of East Anglia have linked low levels of the hormone vitamin D with COVID-19 mortality rates across Europe.


vs


https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/vitamin-d-a-rapid-review-of-the-evidence-for-treatment-or-prevention-in-covid-19/

We found no clinical evidence on vitamin D in COVID-19. There was no evidence related to vitamin D deficiency predisposing to COVID-19, nor were there studies of supplementation for preventing or treating COVID-19.

There is some evidence that daily vitamin D3 supplementation over weeks to months may prevent other acute respiratory infections, particularly in people with low or very low vitamin D status. This evidence has limitations, including heterogeneity in study populations, interventions, and definitions of respiratory infections that include upper and lower respiratory tract involvement.

The current advice is that the whole population of the UK should take vitamin D supplements to prevent vitamin D deficiency. This advice applies irrespective of any possible link with respiratory infection.

If you can't go out in the sun or eat healthy, can't hurt to take vitamin supplements. But popping a couple pills now won't help one bit. But another 2 birds with one stone opportunity, UV lamps in stores. Kills viruses, stimulates vitamin D production :)
https://www.makersnutrition.com/news/2017-09-27-an-innovative-pairing-led-and-vitamin-d/
It's not the same wavelength though, UVB for vitamin D, UVC to kill viruses.

Thanks for link now have to look up symptoms.  Only vitamin deficiency I know about is scurvy and that was like pirate days.

That's vitamin C ;) Vitamin D is for bone density. Osteoporosis is linked to vitamin D deficiency.


Don't take too much

The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which can cause nausea and vomiting, weakness, and frequent urination. Vitamin D toxicity might progress to bone pain and kidney problems, such as the formation of calcium stones.

Vitamin D intoxication occurs when blood levels rise above 150 ng/ml (375 nmol/l). Because the vitamin is stored in body fat and released into the bloodstream slowly, the effects of toxicity may last for several months after you stop taking supplements (4Trusted Source).

Importantly, toxicity isn't common and occurs almost exclusively in people who take long-term, high-dose supplements without monitoring their blood levels.

It's also possible to inadvertently consume too much vitamin D by taking supplements that contain much higher amounts than are listed on the label.

In contrast, you cannot reach dangerously high blood levels through diet and sun exposure alone.