Well, we will have to wait and see if the launch titles will be a disappointment. I surely hope not and I think Sony will drop some bombs early to keep their momentum going. In the end I just want to see great next games and I don't really care if that's on ps5 or Series X, but I got a feeling you would be disappointed if the ps5 launch titles do make full use of things like the SSD tech, have better ai, physics, a generational boost in overall visual fidelity, and do turn out to be actual good games. 

From what we've seen, the slipstream engine does look cutting edge and is designed to scale with next gen hardware. However, an engine is just a tool to drive the hardware and how much of the engine's capabilities they can use totally depends on the base console they're targeting. So yes, if Halo Infinite runs at 540p and drops to 15fps on Xone, it will probably look amazing on Series X. But from what 343 studios are saying, Xone will be the base console and they will likely target 1080p, 30fps (maybe even 60fps like in Halo 5) on Xone with visual parity across all platforms. This simply limits what 343 can do with their new engine on Series X. And who knows, but maybe it's the reason why both the creative director and lead producer of 343 studios quit a couple of months ago: https://wccftech.com/halo-infinite-lead-producer-leaves-343-industries/ or why Rod Fergusson quit Gears and went to Blizzard. 

With the way Phil Spencer is talking about scaling on pc, I think Gears 5 is currently the best example of what they're aiming for as it does take good advantage of the strengths of all platforms. It's just a more subtle and strange approach to kick off a new console generation. And imo, not the best way to showcase what the Series X is capable off and persuade people to buy one. We will see at E3, but I got a feeling that the Series X will just be a small part of their presentation and they will talk a lot more about cloud gaming, putting the gamer at the center instead of the devices, and gaming on a ton of different devices. And it's going to be helluva confusing for Xbox fans who just want a next gen console.

Tokyo Game Show 2020 to Feature Next Generation Consoles and Cloud Gaming 

The event will focus on the full-fledged launch of cloud gaming and its advanced gaming environment such as the start of 5G services for commercial use, and will boost the unprecedented gaming experience brought by new platforms. Moreover, TGS2020 will host the area where visitors can explore “new frontiers” of games through crossing over with education, fashion, arts and other industries.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/442530/tokyo-game-show-2020-to-feature-next-generation-consoles-and-cloud-gaming/

I dunno guys but this sounds boring as shit and Cloud gaming is the last thing I want to hear about at the dawn of a new console generation.

I'm sure we'll see true next gen games on Series X by 2022, when MS realizes that mobile gamers and console gamers are two different things and nobody wants to play core games on their mobile. But by then Sony will have probably released some of their big bombs, have a 40m lead in install base and it'll be too little too late for the Series X to catch up.    

What are you babbling about? When was this ever about mobile gamers? Are you talking about xCloud?

You think PS5 is gonna have a 40m lead by 2022? 40 million units in maybe 14 months would be impressive, let alone a 40m lead.

What bombs will Sony have released by 2022? Only about 14 months into the console generation.

Everything you say is just nonsensical, illogical and wishful thinking in regard to Sony. I'm certain PS5 is gonna do well, but your expectations have nothing to do with trends.

What about indie games? What about the entire Switch/Xbox/PS/PC demographic? Chances are most of us all have a smartphone. That’s a huge consumer pool to draw from....lol you think Xcloud is for mothers who ply candy crush? I mean...you should at least try to understand the services you seem so keen to patronize. 

Forgetting Lockhart? It’s rumoured to undercut the PS5 by up to $100. Not everybody has a 4K TV, remember choice is actually a good thing :)

“Too late for the Series X to catch up” see where as PS5 is by its lonesome, Series X doesn’t have to win by itself. The Xbox brand could very well hold its own against a lone console. Think outside the box 

Well you can interpret it how you want. I'm just looking at what MS's doing and their shift in strategy.

How am I supposed to know what developers will do with the new hardware? I can only hope that we will see better physics, ai and whatnot. Like I said a billion times, if the launch games will be any good game play wise depends on the developers. What we do know for sure is that they'll take a generational leap in visuals from what's possible today on ps4/xone. 

The ps4 sold about 40m in it's first 2 years so there's nothing nonsensical about the ps5 doing the same by the end of 2022.

Changing goal posts again? You clearly wrote "have a 40m lead in install base", not "have a 40m install base". You also wrote "by 2022" and not "by the end of 2022", leaving much room for interpretation.

Probably more if you look at the way Phil Spencer is doing the best marketing imaginable for the ps5. I mean every every time he makes a statement about their next gen vision, fewer people get interested in the Series X. We might not know if Sony will have good launch titles, but we do know what their focus is and it's the same as it's always been before a new console launch: Next gen games and getting ps4 owners to migrate asap.

So that is why they released big games like God of War 2 on PS2 instead of PS3 in March 2007 (five months after the PS3 launch)?

So that is why they released big games like The Last of Us on PS3 instead of PS4 in June 2013 (just five months before the PS4 launch) instead of making it a PS4 launch title?

So that is why they are releasing big games like The Last of Us 2 on PS4 instead of PS5 in May 2020 (just six months before the PS5 launch) instead of making it a PS5 launch title?

So that is why they are releasing big games like Ghost of Tsushima on PS4 instead of PS5 in Q3 2020 (just a few months before the PS5 launch) instead of making it a PS5 launch title?

Are you really sure that Sonys focus has always been getting current gen PlayStation owners to migrate to next gen ASAP by letting support for the old gen die? Weren't PS fans always boasting about how long Sony still supports their old home consoles after their nextgen announcement and that Nintendo should take that as an example?

Maybe you missed it, but MS has already told us in detail what their focus is, and it's not competing with Sony and blowing people's minds by showcasing their 12Tflops console with next gen games. They're about cross gen, playing their games on a ton of different devices through GP and reaching 4 billion non-gamers through Cloud gaming.

Now, maybe Sony won't have their big games ready at launch, but they have at least been working on them for a while now and will likely show full blown next gen ps5 exclusives like HZD2, Spiderman 2, GT7 from day one. MS won't, because they haven't even started developing them. Because as all their exclusives will be cross gen the coming 2 years, and designed to run on the X1 too. 

How do you know that they haven't even started developing "true next gen games"? When will you finally understand that developing great games takes more than two or three years development time? It is really not that hard to understand, is it?

And please specify "day one". Will they show these "full blown next gen ps5 exclusives like HZD2, Spiderman 2, GT7" at the day of the PS5 presentation? Or at E3? Or at PS5 launch? And will they show ingame graphics, in-engine graphics, pre-rendered trailers or just announce the titles at that "day one".

The ps4 sold about 40m in it's first 2 years so there's nothing nonsensical about the ps5 doing the same by the end of 2022. Probably more if you look at the way Phil Spencer is doing the best marketing imaginable for the ps5. I mean every every time he makes a statement about their next gen vision, fewer people get interested in the Series X. We might not know if Sony will have good launch titles, but we do know what their focus is and it's the same as it's always been before a new console launch: Next gen games and getting ps4 owners to migrate asap. Maybe you missed it, but MS has already told us in detail what their focus is, and it's not competing with Sony and blowing people's minds by showcasing their 12Tflops console with next gen games. They're about cross gen, playing their games on a ton of different devices through GP and reaching 4 billion non-gamers through Cloud gaming.

Now, maybe Sony won't have their big games ready at launch, but they have at least been working on them for a while now and will likely show full blown next gen ps5 exclusives like HZD2, Spiderman 2, GT7 from day one. MS won't, because they haven't even started developing them. Because as all their exclusives will be cross gen the coming 2 years, and designed to run on the X1 too. 

Also, this is not me speculating, it's something that's already happening...

"Featuring novel game consoles for the next generation, TGS2020 is sure to attract even more attention from around the world. The event will focus on the full-fledged launch of cloud gaming and its advanced gaming environment such as the start of 5G services for commercial use, and will boost the unprecedented gaming experience brought by new platforms. Moreover, TGS2020 will host the area where visitors can explore “new frontiers” of games through crossing over with education, fashion, arts and other industries.

Like I said, what MS is doing is not a bad idea from a business perspective in theory. But so was Kinect. So while you're thinking out of the box, playing upressed X1 games on a $599 Series X and on your mobile, the masses will probably just stick with a next gen console where they don't have to wait 2 years before they can see what it can actually  do. 

Perhaps my point got lost along the way. Upscaling the "base" game doesn't add new features.

FH2, and shadows of mordor were missing actual features of the game.

So if they took JUST those games and upscaled them the "newer" consoles would have been missing out on features. Like dynamic weather, or the nemesis system.

So my general concern is that if so much attention is spent on the "base" game they will miss out on adding "new" features that are exclusive to a "new" console.

For parity sake (specially since they have already said their plans are for1 or 2 years) they will make the same game. They will upscale it, but there will no exclusive features.

I think part of the problem with 7th gen and 8th gen sharing games was the RAM disparity. It went from 512MB to 5GB. I mean part of the reason Switch can handle 8th gen games is because it has 3.5GB or RAM to work with. My guess is 9th gen is moving to 12GB for games, certainly not a 10x jump again.

The ps4 sold about 40m in it's first 2 years so there's nothing nonsensical about the ps5 doing the same by the end of 2022. Probably more if you look at the way Phil Spencer is doing the best marketing imaginable for the ps5. I mean every every time he makes a statement about their next gen vision, fewer people get interested in the Series X. We might not know if Sony will have good launch titles, but we do know what their focus is and it's the same as it's always been before a new console launch: Next gen games and getting ps4 owners to migrate asap. Maybe you missed it, but MS has already told us in detail what their focus is, and it's not competing with Sony and blowing people's minds by showcasing their 12Tflops console with next gen games. They're about cross gen, playing their games on a ton of different devices through GP and reaching 4 billion non-gamers through Cloud gaming.

Now, maybe Sony won't have their big games ready at launch, but they have at least been working on them for a while now and will likely show full blown next gen ps5 exclusives like HZD2, Spiderman 2, GT7 from day one. MS won't, because they haven't even started developing them. Because as all their exclusives will be cross gen the coming 2 years, and designed to run on the X1 too. 

Also, this is not me speculating, it's something that's already happening...

"Featuring novel game consoles for the next generation, TGS2020 is sure to attract even more attention from around the world. The event will focus on the full-fledged launch of cloud gaming and its advanced gaming environment such as the start of 5G services for commercial use, and will boost the unprecedented gaming experience brought by new platforms. Moreover, TGS2020 will host the area where visitors can explore “new frontiers” of games through crossing over with education, fashion, arts and other industries.