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Leynos on 07 January 2020
HollyGamer said:
twintail said:

Too late for that

Except it's not. PG is still independent. If they wish to be bought that can still happen. No one owns them. Tencent does not own anything of PG.



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HollyGamer on 07 January 2020
Leynos said:
HollyGamer said:

Except it's not. PG is still independent. If they wish to be bought that can still happen. No one owns them. Tencent does not own anything of PG.



SanAndreasX on 08 January 2020
The_Liquid_Laser said:
This seems like a move to make Platinum more independent. Seems like they are always contracting with other major publishers when they make their games. I think they are ready to do their own thing.

Except this won't lead to them being independent, quite the opposite. Tencent, and through them the Chinese government, will be pulling the strings at Platinum. They never invest money in anything without wanting things in return. It's a deal with the devil.



JRPGfan on 08 January 2020
Leynos said:
JRPGfan said:

Oh for fuck's sake Tencent does not own Platinum in any way shape or form. It's a capital investment. Platinum is still independent. All this means is PG is even more independent and a CI from Ten expects some benefit in the future. It could be money. It could be an exclusive game or whatever. It doe snot mean Tencent is buying them. PG does not want to be bought.  This in no way means Tencent owns PG. They don't even have ownership of the lint on the carpet much less the company.

The article doesnt list how many % they own, but they make it clear tencent does own apart of platinum now.
Otherwise they wouldnt have used the world "partnership" imo.

"it could be money", that usually implys buying stakes in a company, and as they rise, you either get a pay out or sell them.


"it doe snot mean tencent is buying them"

^ this we agree on, tencent isnt trying to get 60%+ ownage of the company to controll it.
They ll probably stop 20-48% margin or so.

Stil if you buy into platinum for that much, you expect to have a say in how they do bussiness.
Tencent doesnt just go around handing out money and expecting nothing done with it, or no input in how its done.



Leynos on 08 January 2020
JRPGfan said:
Leynos said:

Oh for fuck's sake Tencent does not own Platinum in any way shape or form. It's a capital investment. Platinum is still independent. All this means is PG is even more independent and a CI from Ten expects some benefit in the future. It could be money. It could be an exclusive game or whatever. It doe snot mean Tencent is buying them. PG does not want to be bought.  This in no way means Tencent owns PG. They don't even have ownership of the lint on the carpet much less the company.

The article doesnt list how many % they own, but they make it clear tencent does own apart of platinum now.
Otherwise they wouldnt have used the world "partnership" imo.

"it could be money", that usually implys buying stakes in a company, and as they rise, you either get a pay out or sell them.


"it doe snot mean tencent is buying them"

^ this we agree on, tencent isnt trying to get 60%+ ownage of the company to controll it.
They ll probably stop 20-48% margin or so.

Stil if you buy into platinum for that much, you expect to have a say in how they do bussiness.
Tencent doesnt just go around handing out money and expecting nothing done with it, or no input in how its done.

The partnership has no effect on the independence of Platinum Games, which will continue operations under its current corporate structure.

https://www.gematsu.com/2020/01/platinum-games-receives-capital-investment-from-tencent-holdings-to-expand-into-self-publishing

Look up what a CI is, please. Ten owns nothing of PG. Nothing. Nadda. 0. Zilch. Cero. 零

That is very different sounding than let's say when SEGA bought Atlus but let Atlus keep doing what they do. PG is still fully independent but now has essentially a loan to self publish some games. It's not a Gungho situation with Grasshopper or Kadakowa with From Software or anything like that. PG is still 100% privately owned.

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Immersiveunreality on 08 January 2020
Leynos said:
JRPGfan said:

The article doesnt list how many % they own, but they make it clear tencent does own apart of platinum now.
Otherwise they wouldnt have used the world "partnership" imo.

"it could be money", that usually implys buying stakes in a company, and as they rise, you either get a pay out or sell them.


"it doe snot mean tencent is buying them"

^ this we agree on, tencent isnt trying to get 60%+ ownage of the company to controll it.
They ll probably stop 20-48% margin or so.

Stil if you buy into platinum for that much, you expect to have a say in how they do bussiness.
Tencent doesnt just go around handing out money and expecting nothing done with it, or no input in how its done.

The partnership has no effect on the independence of Platinum Games, which will continue operations under its current corporate structure.

https://www.gematsu.com/2020/01/platinum-games-receives-capital-investment-from-tencent-holdings-to-expand-into-self-publishing

Look up what a CI is, please. Ten owns nothing of PG. Nothing. Nadda. 0. Zilch. Cero. 零

That is very different sounding than let's say when SEGA bought Atlus but let Atlus keep doing what they do. PG is still fully independent but now has essentially a loan to self publish some games. It's not a Gungho situation with Grasshopper or Kadakowa with From Software or anything like that. PG is still 100% privately owned.

With a CI they do not have to own the company to make thing go their way,some deals can be closed by contract in order for them to give the capital investment so without owning the company they could still have a say in the direction it takes.

Making a big capital investment without being able to steer things slightly in the direction you want it to be sounds too riskfull for investors like Tencent.



Leynos on 08 January 2020

Keep moving goalposts and believing what you want. Won't change the fact PG is fully on their own. Bye.



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Immersiveunreality on 08 January 2020
Leynos said:
Keep moving goalposts and believing what you want. Won't change the fact PG is fully on their own. Bye.

Fact?

Where did you come across that fact,you can call it a possibility but calling it a fact is rather dreamish.

I also wish PG will be on their own making good games like for forever but a company like Tencent does normally not invest big amounts without having a say in the direction or influence on the future of its partner on that deal.It is just not realistic to not even consider the possibility of Tencent having some control on the product Platinum Games delivers to us.