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shikamaru317 said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

But they didn't announce it. It was weirdly briefly mentioned in some interview that they want it to happen or something. There was never an official announcement that the game is coming to Xbox. So, they probably still haven't reached an agreement.

It was essentially announced, at least by MS, if not by Square. Phil told the press it was coming to Xbox at XO19:

"I wanted you to know, rest assured that we will be bringing that game [Final Fantasy XIV] to Xbox. We have a great relationship with Yoshida-san [FFXIV director] and we’re working through what it means to bring [to Xbox] a cross-platform MMO that they’ve run for years."

Then just last month, Yoshida started walking back the narrative, suggesting that FF14 on Xbox might not happen:

"I haven’t really considered releasing FFXIV on Game Pass. This is because FFXIV itself is a subscription-model game," said Yoshida. "Phil is very dedicated in his support for FFXIV, and I truly appreciate his efforts. I hope that one day, Phil and I can stand shoulder to shoulder and create an opportunity for gamers around the world to enjoy FFXIV even more."

It's such a weird situation. Basically an entire generation of back and forth between MS and Square about this game, only for it not to come to Xbox, at least if Jez is right. Square truly makes no sense to me sometimes. FFXV sold nearly 2m on Xbox One, but then they went and sold timed exclusivity on multiple FF games and Project Athia to Sony, and now they seem like they are trying to get out of FF14 on Xbox as well. Add to that all of their other games that skip Xbox, it just leaves me shaking my head.

And that's the problem. I'm not sure why MS did this. But I don't think Square was aware of it. Because if you find the latest news about it (from June 2020 I believe), Square are still "discussing".



 

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shikamaru317 said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

But they didn't announce it. It was weirdly briefly mentioned in some interview that they want it to happen or something. There was never an official announcement that the game is coming to Xbox. So, they probably still haven't reached an agreement.

It was essentially announced, at least by MS, if not by Square. Phil told the press it was coming to Xbox at XO19:

"I wanted you to know, rest assured that we will be bringing that game [Final Fantasy XIV] to Xbox. We have a great relationship with Yoshida-san [FFXIV director] and we’re working through what it means to bring [to Xbox] a cross-platform MMO that they’ve run for years."

Then just last month, Yoshida started walking back the narrative, suggesting that FF14 on Xbox might not happen:

"I haven’t really considered releasing FFXIV on Game Pass. This is because FFXIV itself is a subscription-model game," said Yoshida. "Phil is very dedicated in his support for FFXIV, and I truly appreciate his efforts. I hope that one day, Phil and I can stand shoulder to shoulder and create an opportunity for gamers around the world to enjoy FFXIV even more."

It's such a weird situation. Basically an entire generation of back and forth between MS and Square about this game, only for it not to come to Xbox, at least if Jez is right. Square truly makes no sense to me sometimes. FFXV sold nearly 2m on Xbox One, but then they went and sold timed exclusivity on multiple FF games and Project Athia to Sony, and now they seem like they are trying to get out of FF14 on Xbox as well. Add to that all of their other games that skip Xbox, it just leaves me shaking my head.

I guess you are overestimating it a bit. VGC has it just a bit above 1m. With digital sales taken into account it would probably end up in 1.5m range. It's actually not that great for a Final Fantasy game tbh. Especially if you have Sony that is willing to cover the losses of not releasing the game to such platform (at least, not initially).



 

derpysquirtle64 said:
shikamaru317 said:

It was essentially announced, at least by MS, if not by Square. Phil told the press it was coming to Xbox at XO19:

"I wanted you to know, rest assured that we will be bringing that game [Final Fantasy XIV] to Xbox. We have a great relationship with Yoshida-san [FFXIV director] and we’re working through what it means to bring [to Xbox] a cross-platform MMO that they’ve run for years."

Then just last month, Yoshida started walking back the narrative, suggesting that FF14 on Xbox might not happen:

"I haven’t really considered releasing FFXIV on Game Pass. This is because FFXIV itself is a subscription-model game," said Yoshida. "Phil is very dedicated in his support for FFXIV, and I truly appreciate his efforts. I hope that one day, Phil and I can stand shoulder to shoulder and create an opportunity for gamers around the world to enjoy FFXIV even more."

It's such a weird situation. Basically an entire generation of back and forth between MS and Square about this game, only for it not to come to Xbox, at least if Jez is right. Square truly makes no sense to me sometimes. FFXV sold nearly 2m on Xbox One, but then they went and sold timed exclusivity on multiple FF games and Project Athia to Sony, and now they seem like they are trying to get out of FF14 on Xbox as well. Add to that all of their other games that skip Xbox, it just leaves me shaking my head.

I guess you are overestimating it a bit. VGC has it just a bit above 1m. With digital sales taken into account it would probably end up in 1.5m range. It's actually not that great for a Final Fantasy game tbh. Especially if you have Sony that is willing to cover the losses of not releasing the game to such platform (at least, not initially).

VGC physical tracking ends in 2018, 2 more years of physical sales since then. And most games this gen have at least 30% of their sales as digital, so physical + digital should be around 2m, especially considering how many digital sales FFXV and FFXV Royal Edition have been in on Xbox over the last 4 years. It might not be huge numbers compared to what it sold on PS4, but that is still alot of revenue, and FFXV sold another 1m+ on PC, which FF7 Remake parts and FF16 are also skipping on release. Sony must be paying a pretty penny. 



MS isn't removing Gold for f2p cause of Fortnite only players. There is a lot of them.



shikamaru317 said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

But they didn't announce it. It was weirdly briefly mentioned in some interview that they want it to happen or something. There was never an official announcement that the game is coming to Xbox. So, they probably still haven't reached an agreement.

It was essentially announced, at least by MS, if not by Square. Phil told the press it was coming to Xbox at XO19:

"I wanted you to know, rest assured that we will be bringing that game [Final Fantasy XIV] to Xbox. We have a great relationship with Yoshida-san [FFXIV director] and we’re working through what it means to bring [to Xbox] a cross-platform MMO that they’ve run for years."

Then just last month, Yoshida started walking back the narrative, suggesting that FF14 on Xbox might not happen:

"I haven’t really considered releasing FFXIV on Game Pass. This is because FFXIV itself is a subscription-model game," said Yoshida. "Phil is very dedicated in his support for FFXIV, and I truly appreciate his efforts. I hope that one day, Phil and I can stand shoulder to shoulder and create an opportunity for gamers around the world to enjoy FFXIV even more."

It's such a weird situation. Basically an entire generation of back and forth between MS and Square about this game, only for it not to come to Xbox, at least if Jez is right. Square truly makes no sense to me sometimes. FFXV sold nearly 2m on Xbox One, but then they went and sold timed exclusivity on multiple FF games and Project Athia to Sony, and now they seem like they are trying to get out of FF14 on Xbox as well. Add to that all of their other games that skip Xbox, it just leaves me shaking my head.

Attia was being bankrolled partially by Sony. As for XVI, it seems it's going to scale down significantly and act as a sort of reboot for the series. Now most of Squeenix's heavy hitting lineup is drying up, they seem more willing to cover themselves first and test the waters before doing something unusual. 

In other words, they won't release smaller titles for Xbox unless they see it's selling like bread. We get the only the big hitters. 



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Sucks, pre ordered in July and still not received my series X.










derpysquirtle64 said:
jason1637 said:

Looks as if Microsoft is prioritizing certain regions like NA over Europe for launch. The XBS barely outsold the XBO in the UK, a little less than the XBO in Japan, and sold a little less than the XBO in France. MS saying it's their biggest launch so we can assume that the Americas and maybe even Oceania took the stock for that to happen

Hard to blame them for that though. They don't really have much chance in Europe to be honest and Sony seems to be prioritising US as well this time (judging by their statements, it's pretty clear that they really want to win US over Xbox once again). So, wise decision in my opinion from MS side. Win US at launch and then move on to EU expansion.

Nobody is saying MS can win Europe from one to the next day but MS isn't even trying and that's the problem. They didn't try anything last gen here and it seems that it won't get better this gen. Sony isn't just winning with such a huge gap without doing anything. They win so hard because they take the market serious which MS clearly doesn't. They have no huge ad campaigns, they don't get marketing deals for important games or anything. They just release the consoles in Europe and are like "take it or not but don't expect us to do anything not with USA/UK in mind"

But Xbox already tells people to buy a PS5 if their friends own one so I guess I should really do that. makes no sense to me to buy an Xbox when all my friends moved away from it after the 360. I just hate how stupid/lazy/indifferent MS is in Europe because I was always more of an Xbox guy but yeah...



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