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What do you think

I disagree with Phil 20 35.09%
 
I agree with Phil 21 36.84%
 
I love VR so i am stayed with PS5 or PC 14 24.56%
 
I love VR but II love Xbo... 0 0%
 
Cloud gaming is the future not VR 2 3.51%
 
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LudicrousSpeed on 28 November 2019
HollyGamer said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Yes yes, I remember now that Sony created cinematic single player gaming and sim racers. Thankfully Sony exists otherwise we wouldn’t have these. They also created cloud gaming, even though PSNow grew from Gaikai which was a cloud gaming company Sony bought. Also, is PSNow really that popular that MS would want to hurry and copy it? Also, didn’t Sony just partner with MS to use Azure cloud servers for Sony’s cloud and streaming services? And yet you’re claiming MS is following Sony into this area 😆

Sony are making an MOU with Microsoft =/=  partnering , they are not even using Microsoft Azure for their gaming platform. Contradicted with what people believe. Hell even there is no relation with partnering and inventing. Also Azure is server that used for general purpose on internet. Cloud is just a service which still can exist without Azure.  

PSNow will be powered by Azure.

Idk why you’re trying to explain to me the difference between partnering and inventing. Sony didn’t invent any of this. 

And I am aware that Azure is just a cloud service and not the cloud itself or whatever it is you’re trying to explain to me 😆 I just think it’s funny you’re implying MS followed Sony into this space when not only is this the natural progression of technology but Sony is relying on MS’s servers for their part.



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DonFerrari on 28 November 2019
RolStoppable said:
JRPGfan said:

I saw this on neogaf: (it does give you that "theres a console for you, a xb360" quote)

https://i.imgur.com/Ri04Qne.jpg


Xbox are basically saying, if you have any intresting in VR, dont buy our product.

Yup, and Nintendo is saying the same thing. Lack of VR support is really, really detrimental for console sales.

It's so funny that Piscatella, who has all the sales of VR headsets in the USA in front of him, can tweet about how insignificant VR is, yet no major VR plans for Scarlett are treated as if Microsoft is making a mistake.

Because the only market is USA and also because CEO base their decisions on Piscatella forecasts? We have some "analysts" quite famous on VGC that have all the data not only in USA but worldwide who make some very bad analysis and forecasts.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

JRPGfan on 28 November 2019
RolStoppable said:
JRPGfan said:

I saw this on neogaf: (it does give you that "theres a console for you, a xb360" quote)

https://i.imgur.com/Ri04Qne.jpg

Xbox are basically saying, if you have any intresting in VR, dont buy our product.

Yup, and Nintendo is saying the same thing. Lack of VR support is really, really detrimental for console sales.

It's so funny that Piscatella, who has all the sales of VR headsets in the USA in front of him, can tweet about how insignificant VR is, yet no major VR plans for Scarlett are treated as if Microsoft is making a mistake.

If you look at them all together... the real headsets.... in 2017 there was ~4mil units sold, in 2018 it was around 4,8m units, and in 2019 it was around ~6m units. According to statista.

Also Nintendo Switch does have some Labo VR headsets.... though I have no idea how many those sold.

Yes in the overall scheme of things, its currently "insignificant" compaired to console sales... however its clearly a growing market.
Things might not stay that way forever.


And again, this all leads back to (your) the arugement = theres not much money in it, so why bother.

To which I reply:  Not everything for a platform holder has to make money, if it just draws in users.



pokoko on 28 November 2019

Personally, I see no need for Microsoft to jump into the VR market right now. We all know Microsoft is going to Microsoft and attempt to buy their way in at a later date if the outlook is good, anyway. Sometimes it works, sometimes we get Windows Phone.



HollyGamer on 28 November 2019
LudicrousSpeed said:
HollyGamer said:

Sony are making an MOU with Microsoft =/=  partnering , they are not even using Microsoft Azure for their gaming platform. Contradicted with what people believe. Hell even there is no relation with partnering and inventing. Also Azure is server that used for general purpose on internet. Cloud is just a service which still can exist without Azure.  

PSNow will be powered by Azure.

Idk why you’re trying to explain to me the difference between partnering and inventing. Sony didn’t invent any of this. 

And I am aware that Azure is just a cloud service and not the cloud itself or whatever it is you’re trying to explain to me 😆 I just think it’s funny you’re implying MS followed Sony into this space when not only is this the natural progression of technology but Sony is relying on MS’s servers for their part.

OK this my mistake, Sony is not the inventor but they the one who first brought CLoud gaming  to become mainstream see the potential to gaming mainstream 

I remember when PS now announced a lot of people against this while Sony never said it will be their main focus at that time until now, unlike today where Xcloud become their main focus and it's like everybody just found a messiah. 



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LudicrousSpeed on 28 November 2019
RolStoppable said:
JRPGfan said:

I saw this on neogaf: (it does give you that "theres a console for you, a xb360" quote)

https://i.imgur.com/Ri04Qne.jpg


Xbox are basically saying, if you have any intresting in VR, dont buy our product.

Yup, and Nintendo is saying the same thing. Lack of VR support is really, really detrimental for console sales.

It's so funny that Piscatella, who has all the sales of VR headsets in the USA in front of him, can tweet about how insignificant VR is, yet no major VR plans for Scarlett are treated as if Microsoft is making a mistake.

You underestimate the strength of the VR userbase.




LudicrousSpeed on 28 November 2019
HollyGamer said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

PSNow will be powered by Azure.

Idk why you’re trying to explain to me the difference between partnering and inventing. Sony didn’t invent any of this. 

And I am aware that Azure is just a cloud service and not the cloud itself or whatever it is you’re trying to explain to me 😆 I just think it’s funny you’re implying MS followed Sony into this space when not only is this the natural progression of technology but Sony is relying on MS’s servers for their part.

OK this my mistake, Sony is not the inventor but they the one who first brought CLoud gaming  to become mainstream see the potential to gaming mainstream 

I remember when PS now announced a lot of people against this while Sony never said it will be their main focus at that time until now, unlike today where Xcloud become their main focus and it's like everybody just found a messiah. 

PS Now is mainstream? Nah.

Also, xcloud isn't Microsoft's main focus. Also strange how when multiple focuses benefits Sony you can see it but Microsoft either has to be all in on VR or nothing, there aren't layers of focus when Xbox is involved.



Azzanation on 28 November 2019

Good, no need to waste development power in VR. Focus solely on the reason why gamers buy the console in the first place.

VR is clearly not profitable yet.



darkenergy on 28 November 2019

Damn there are people here that have a personal vendetta against either Microsoft or Phil Spencer, hilarious



Proud to be a Californian.

Jigsawx1 on 28 November 2019
Radek said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Good. Focus on the core gaming experience. If I want VR I can go to PC or PSVR, I just don’t want it so I don’t. I agree with him too that VR is a way to play games that isolates you from everyone else. Some prefer that and are in to that, more power to them.

😆 @ that tweet response.

They promised VR for Xbox One X though? What happened to that? Maybe One / One S was too weak, I understand but Scarlett?

I love how you can spin everything bad into good news though 😆

yeah that is what trolls like the most.