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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Gears of War - Metacritic (currently 85)

DonFerrari on 13 September 2019
Pemalite said:
DonFerrari said:

Well it isn't just in the same timeframe but they also compare to the best games that released within the same gen.

We have seem many great games score within 85-90 even though we personally though it deserved 95, and usually it have to do with reviewers not evaluating what the game is and have, but what they wanted to be, what it doesn't have (even if the dev didn't want to put it and fans don't care) and details or mechanics other games have used.

If you force your memory to the start of the generation you'll see cases of games that were much better than last gen counterparts but received lower scores.

Anyway at least 85 is a pretty good score, but I'll trust you on that it should have been higher based on your impressions of the game.

Well, Gears of War 4 released in the same generation as Gears of War 5, so Gears of War 5's score should be reflected against that... It doesn't need to be a 95, it just needs a score higher than Gears of War 4.
If we were comparing it against a 7th gen Gears of War title, then that is another issue entirely.

Either way, it doesn't really matter, anyone who enjoys Gears will pick this game up, those who don't, probably won't grab a copy, irrespective of a couple of irrelevant metacritic points.

My issue is just the consistency of review scores, irrespective of platform or game.

High scores may bring some additional sales, but being on gamerpass it is likely that anyone not sure if they will like or want to buy may at least try a short sub to test the game, so I agree there isn't much issue on the 85 itself (and also agree that a better game should have a higher score, but to many times that isn't true on the reviews).

And about the consistency, professionalism, objectivity, etc of reviewers that is a discussion almost all metacritic threads have and usually most agree reviewers do a poor job.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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JRPGfan on 13 September 2019

Currently 85... thread says 86.



DonFerrari on 13 September 2019
JRPGfan said:
Currently 85... thread says 86.

When I started the thread it was 86. Thanks for call.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 13 September 2019

And for the complains of Gears 5 being a better game than Gears 4 and should have a better score, it still is 1 point above. Also just remember that even though the publication is the same it is likely that the review was made by different people so the fact the reviewer think the game is better the score may be lower (because it wasn't his score on the previous game).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

SammyGiireal on 13 September 2019
DonFerrari said:
And for the complains of Gears 5 being a better game than Gears 4 and should have a better score, it still is 1 point above. Also just remember that even though the publication is the same it is likely that the review was made by different people so the fact the reviewer think the game is better the score may be lower (because it wasn't his score on the previous game).

Yes, most big publications have different reviewers. I think it is just a bit shocking as Gears 5 is seen as one of Microsoft's big guns and it delivers the goods as far the series goes. It seems this gen in particular there has been a lot of scrutiny over Metacritic/Gameranking scores for big titles and exclusives.  Let's remember HZD which ranked in the 80s though plenty of people loved it (myself included), very few games get to that mid 90s range. I still value Metacritic ....rarely has a game in the 90s range not turned out to be special. So I usually jump in blindfolded of a game gets those scores.



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2zosteven on 13 September 2019

this is really a great game. lots of fun, first game I've enjoyed on xbox in awile.



steve

AngryLittleAlchemist on 13 September 2019

I'll probably sign up for Xbox Game Pass on PC for this game.



Pemalite on 13 September 2019

Should also mention that there is a big divide between user and professional scores on Metacritic.

Gears 4 was: 6.9 user.
Gears 5 was 8.8 user.

Clearly the actual reviews aren't reflecting gamers experiences.



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COKTOE on 13 September 2019
SammyGiireal said:
DonFerrari said:
And for the complains of Gears 5 being a better game than Gears 4 and should have a better score, it still is 1 point above. Also just remember that even though the publication is the same it is likely that the review was made by different people so the fact the reviewer think the game is better the score may be lower (because it wasn't his score on the previous game).

Yes, most big publications have different reviewers. I think it is just a bit shocking as Gears 5 is seen as one of Microsoft's big guns and it delivers the goods as far the series goes. It seems this gen in particular there has been a lot of scrutiny over Metacritic/Gameranking scores for big titles and exclusives.  Let's remember HZD which ranked in the 80s though plenty of people loved it (myself included), very few games get to that mid 90s range. I still value Metacritic ....rarely has a game in the 90s range not turned out to be special. So I usually jump in blindfolded of a game gets those scores.

Off topic, again!...: I would have figured HZD was in the 90's. Blew my f***in' mind! But there it is, sitting at 89 on MC. Ah well.

Came to post what you and Don said. Different reviewers in play may lead to a scenario where a sequel that's almost universally considered to be superior to it predesessor, garners a similar score as said predecessor. The number of reviews is different too. 103 MC reviews for Gears 4 vs only 78 for Gears 5.



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SammyGiireal on 13 September 2019
COKTOE said:
SammyGiireal said:

Yes, most big publications have different reviewers. I think it is just a bit shocking as Gears 5 is seen as one of Microsoft's big guns and it delivers the goods as far the series goes. It seems this gen in particular there has been a lot of scrutiny over Metacritic/Gameranking scores for big titles and exclusives.  Let's remember HZD which ranked in the 80s though plenty of people loved it (myself included), very few games get to that mid 90s range. I still value Metacritic ....rarely has a game in the 90s range not turned out to be special. So I usually jump in blindfolded of a game gets those scores.

Off topic, again!...: I would have figured HZD was in the 90's. Blew my f***in' mind! But there it is, sitting at 89 on MC. Ah well.

Came to post what you and Don said. Different reviewers in play may lead to a scenario where a sequel that's almost universally considered to be superior to it predesessor, garners a similar score as said predecessor. The number of reviews is different too. 103 MC reviews for Gears 4 vs only 78 for Gears 5.

HZD is definately an easy 9 to me. The story, music and presentation were superb. It just goes to show, I used that example because that is one of the games that I have enjoyed more than many games rated in the 9s.