Just want another country to start building durable goods again. These days most shit from China is cheap and shitty. Sure there are some reliable products but go back 3 or 4 decades they built shit to last. Now we are in a throw away economy. Something breaks go buy another because prob cost just as much fixing than to replace. I'll take Japan they usually make good shit. They can make good cars but apparently not airbags!

I don't think so. Most of South America, on the other hand, imports consoles through the US...

But honestly, considering the next consoles should release by the end of 2020, I think manufacturers will take on the losses betting it will change early in the next presidency. If the tax comes to be at all.

The "Yahoo" brand of internet services and the company which owns 16% shares on Alibaba have nothing to do with each other nowadays. The former is owned by Verizon, and the latter (which is literally over an order of magnitude more valuable than the Yahoo brand itself) is an independent investment company going by another name.

Either way, the censorship of Google predates these deals by years.

Only physical products, though I do think some states do add on taxes for digital purchases. 

Anyway, though it couldn't be done overnight, I think one solution to all of this is to have consoles manufactured elsewhere. I did hear something about Foxconn opening up plants in North America, though that was a while ago. At this rate, though, the consoles could be made in Taiwan, Mexico or the various emerging markets in East Asia. I think Vietnam would be a good place to invest into, though I'm not sure how quickly this could be done. At this rate though, China needs the US more than the US needs China. The US is the buyer. China is the seller. There are plenty of other places to buy from.

Wouldn't most parts come in from China and hence get slapped with tariffs? Sony afaik still has some assembly lines in Japan they could expand to atleast lessen tariff impact on a part of their US bound consoles.

The problem is when China does things that's competitively unfair. That's how this whole dispute came about. Now, China does not want to cripple the US economically because The US is China's biggest buyer of goods in the world. At this point, China needs the US. A large portion of China's economy involves selling goods to the US. The US however does not need China as much and if China does not want to play fair, then there are plenty of other countries out there that want to sell goods to the US. Also, while setting up in other countries might take some effort, it's not that hard. In fact, the whole notion of having everything made in China is somewhat new. When I was growing up, your products from Nintendo and Sega were made in Japan. Japan made their own stuff. The US made a lot of it's own stuff. The whole idea of moving everything to China only started happening maybe about 20 years ago. So it isn't like China was always that country that made products for everyone and in 10 years, it may be somebody else.

Problem is, that the incentives for that are made from us, not China.

Customers in general rather buy cheap products than long-lasting ones. Which pushed the producers to keep things running just as long as they need to, aka as long as it's under some kind of warranty.

So, either the whole population shifts its consumerism to long-lasting products, or there need to be legal changes in the length of warranties to make that happen.

The importing costs get eaten up by wages, so doubtful that they'll do so. Also, new factories would need to get build, which takes a while and is expensive.

However, there's a possibility that the final assembly moves to another third world or developing country, like India, Indonesia, Philippines... to get around the tax. And if it's just the final assembly, China wouldn't loose much of it.

I can't see that happening, Trump want's Apple to move production to the USA but they are not stupid. It simply costs way to much to do that, labor costs, befits, teaching a new workforce to build phones, importing the materials needed that are not readily available in the US (rare earth metals)... basically you would see the cost of an average iphone jump by 25%. if Consoles were made in the USA you would be spending more then that 25%.

I think that has little to do with China and more to do with the business that sell the items.  For example, lets say Company A sells a vacuum that lasts 20 years, they now have to wait 20 years to ever see another sale from that person, so they "redesign" that vacuum to last 10 years, they just doubled there potential earning off that client in half the time. It has very little to do with how China makes the goods, they simply just make them how it's instructed from whoever they have the contract with.

Yea suppose you are right.  More to deal with companies being cheap.  However, I'm sure there are instances that some Chinese firms cut corners or use inferior components to save some money on the bottom line.  Sure it happens everywhere but I believe it is more rampant over there.  Heck they were so bad a few years ago they were killing babies with bad baby formula.