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Personal data is protected by EU law. Not random stuff someone is posting on a forum.

When you create a new account, VGC only wants to know your gender and birthday (most likely for legal reasons).
They don't know your real name, address, social security number or whatever else could be considered "personal".



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Eagle367 said:

Just be unapologetic about your politics. Say whatever you believe about politics and the mods will be forced to permaban you. It doesn't even have to be something offensive, just extremely political. I once got banned for criticizing the US so you can see I'm speaking from experience

You got banned three days two and a half years ago by a mod who isn't a mod anymore. This is also around the time you were making such comments as "I think all muricans are stupid at best and retarded at average and insane at worst". You've said many extremely political things since then, and have not been permabanned, or even regular banned for them. Probably time to make like Elsa and let it go. At any rate complaining about mod actions is against the rules and off topic, so anything further should be via PM.

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

I'm not a lawyer but this could very well be illegal under EU and UK law, and I hope the website admins and owners have considered this, since the site is accessible from Europe

https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rights-citizens/my-rights/can-i-ask-company-delete-my-personal-data_en
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-6-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-9-gdpr/

personally, I believe all this anonymity damages the internet and the society in general, but since anonymity is what we have and on that basis people post, it has to be respected

to be honest I would support a global online identification system anytime - that would decrease hate speech and also safeguard children from harmful exposure to bullying, deception and premature content

Personal data is defined as...

"The data subjects are identifiable if they can be directly or indirectly identified, especially by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or one of several special characteristics, which expresses the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, commercial, cultural or social identity of these natural persons. In practice, these also include all data which are or can be assigned to a person in any kind of way. For example, the telephone, credit card or personnel number of a person, account data, number plate, appearance, customer number or address are all personal data."

I don't think any of this data is provided to VGChartz unless the person posts it voluntarily, and nobody has to provide it in order to use the site. And VGChartz isn't making any data available to my knowledge unless a user posts it. Pretty sure the personal data laws are more for data you provide to a website in expectation it will be private. Otherwise, it would be impossible to comply. If you post something personal, and then someone quotes it in their reply, what exactly can be done? Unless VGC is responsible for somehow scrubbing everything personal you said that might have been quoted.

Not a lawyer either, but I am a law student. I don't really see any liability here. 



Bofferbrauer2 said:
axumblade said:

Or do like a member from years ago and change the password (and email I think?) so the temptation isn't there. I know there are ways around that but it makes it more difficult and less worth the effort to some. 

Or like some other user who started cursing all and everybody until he got banned for it, just like he wanted to.

Fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, kick me out ... I really need to watch Half Baked again.



JWeinCom said:

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

Personal data is defined as...

"The data subjects are identifiable if they can be directly or indirectly identified, especially by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or one of several special characteristics, which expresses the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, commercial, cultural or social identity of these natural persons. In practice, these also include all data which are or can be assigned to a person in any kind of way. For example, the telephone, credit card or personnel number of a person, account data, number plate, appearance, customer number or address are all personal data."

I don't think any of this data is provided to VGChartz unless the person posts it voluntarily, and nobody has to provide it in order to use the site. And VGChartz isn't making any data available to my knowledge unless a user posts it. Pretty sure the personal data laws are more for data you provide to a website in expectation it will be private. Otherwise, it would be impossible to comply. If you post something personal, and then someone quotes it in their reply, what exactly can be done? Unless VGC is responsible for somehow scrubbing everything personal you said that might have been quoted.

Not a lawyer either, but I am a law student. I don't really see any liability here. 

Art. 9 GDPR definition seems to go a bit further, but I guess it doesn't matter since as you mention that data is not necessary in order to use the website and it is made public with one's consent

still the option to delete own account sounds quite sensible imo



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

Mods delete my depression please.



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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
JWeinCom said:

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

Personal data is defined as...

"The data subjects are identifiable if they can be directly or indirectly identified, especially by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or one of several special characteristics, which expresses the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, commercial, cultural or social identity of these natural persons. In practice, these also include all data which are or can be assigned to a person in any kind of way. For example, the telephone, credit card or personnel number of a person, account data, number plate, appearance, customer number or address are all personal data."

I don't think any of this data is provided to VGChartz unless the person posts it voluntarily, and nobody has to provide it in order to use the site. And VGChartz isn't making any data available to my knowledge unless a user posts it. Pretty sure the personal data laws are more for data you provide to a website in expectation it will be private. Otherwise, it would be impossible to comply. If you post something personal, and then someone quotes it in their reply, what exactly can be done? Unless VGC is responsible for somehow scrubbing everything personal you said that might have been quoted.

Not a lawyer either, but I am a law student. I don't really see any liability here. 

Art. 9 GDPR definition seems to go a bit further, but I guess it doesn't matter since as you mention that data is not necessary in order to use the website and it is made public with one's consent

still the option to delete own account sounds quite sensible imo

We actually did have a button that deleted all posts a user made in the past. But, when that was used it completely fucked the formatting for other threads. So there may be some technical reasons not to allow deleting old posts. We could lock the account, but that doesn't have much data.



JWeinCom said:
Eagle367 said:

Just be unapologetic about your politics. Say whatever you believe about politics and the mods will be forced to permaban you. It doesn't even have to be something offensive, just extremely political. I once got banned for criticizing the US so you can see I'm speaking from experience

You got banned three days two and a half years ago by a mod who isn't a mod anymore. This is also around the time you were making such comments as "I think all muricans are stupid at best and retarded at average and insane at worst". You've said many extremely political things since then, and have not been permabanned, or even regular banned for them. Probably time to make like Elsa and let it go. At any rate complaining about mod actions is against the rules and off topic, so anything further should be via PM.

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

I'm not a lawyer but this could very well be illegal under EU and UK law, and I hope the website admins and owners have considered this, since the site is accessible from Europe

https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rights-citizens/my-rights/can-i-ask-company-delete-my-personal-data_en
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-6-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-9-gdpr/

personally, I believe all this anonymity damages the internet and the society in general, but since anonymity is what we have and on that basis people post, it has to be respected

to be honest I would support a global online identification system anytime - that would decrease hate speech and also safeguard children from harmful exposure to bullying, deception and premature content

Personal data is defined as...

"The data subjects are identifiable if they can be directly or indirectly identified, especially by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or one of several special characteristics, which expresses the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, commercial, cultural or social identity of these natural persons. In practice, these also include all data which are or can be assigned to a person in any kind of way. For example, the telephone, credit card or personnel number of a person, account data, number plate, appearance, customer number or address are all personal data."

I don't think any of this data is provided to VGChartz unless the person posts it voluntarily, and nobody has to provide it in order to use the site. And VGChartz isn't making any data available to my knowledge unless a user posts it. Pretty sure the personal data laws are more for data you provide to a website in expectation it will be private. Otherwise, it would be impossible to comply. If you post something personal, and then someone quotes it in their reply, what exactly can be done? Unless VGC is responsible for somehow scrubbing everything personal you said that might have been quoted.

Not a lawyer either, but I am a law student. I don't really see any liability here. 

indirectly identified online identifier of these natural persons.....

This together can make it a little complicated for even sites that don`t ask anything personal.



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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DonFerrari said:

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

I'm not a lawyer but this could very well be illegal under EU and UK law, and I hope the website admins and owners have considered this, since the site is accessible from Europe

https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rights-citizens/my-rights/can-i-ask-company-delete-my-personal-data_en
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-6-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-9-gdpr/

personally, I believe all this anonymity damages the internet and the society in general, but since anonymity is what we have and on that basis people post, it has to be respected

to be honest I would support a global online identification system anytime - that would decrease hate speech and also safeguard children from harmful exposure to bullying, deception and premature content

Personal data is defined as...

"The data subjects are identifiable if they can be directly or indirectly identified, especially by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or one of several special characteristics, which expresses the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, commercial, cultural or social identity of these natural persons. In practice, these also include all data which are or can be assigned to a person in any kind of way. For example, the telephone, credit card or personnel number of a person, account data, number plate, appearance, customer number or address are all personal data."

I don't think any of this data is provided to VGChartz unless the person posts it voluntarily, and nobody has to provide it in order to use the site. And VGChartz isn't making any data available to my knowledge unless a user posts it. Pretty sure the personal data laws are more for data you provide to a website in expectation it will be private. Otherwise, it would be impossible to comply. If you post something personal, and then someone quotes it in their reply, what exactly can be done? Unless VGC is responsible for somehow scrubbing everything personal you said that might have been quoted.

Not a lawyer either, but I am a law student. I don't really see any liability here. 

indirectly identified online identifier of these natural persons.....

This together can make it a little complicated for even sites that don`t ask anything personal.

woa, so that makes the definition very broad, maybe that could really complicate things, combined with

Art. 17 GDPR Right to erasure (‘right to be forgotten’)

  1. The data subject shall have the right to obtain from the controller the erasure of personal data concerning him or her without undue delay and the controller shall have the obligation to erase personal data without undue delay where one of the following grounds applies:
     
    1. the personal data are no longer necessary in relation to the purposes for which they were collected or otherwise processed;

    2. the data subject withdraws consent on which the processing is based according to point (a) of Article 6(1), or point (a) of Article 9(2), and where there is no other legal ground for the processing;

Processing

The term "processing" is very broad. It essentially means anything that is done to, or with, personal data (including simply collecting, storing or deleting those data). This definition is significant because it clarifies the fact that EU data protection law is likely to apply wherever an organisation does anything that involves or affects personal data.

https://gdpr.eu/eu-gdpr-personal-data/
https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/personal-data/
https://www.whitecase.com/publications/article/chapter-5-key-definitions-unlocking-eu-general-data-protection-regulation



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

dark_gh0st_b0y said:
DonFerrari said:

indirectly identified online identifier of these natural persons.....

This together can make it a little complicated for even sites that don`t ask anything personal.

woa, so that makes the definition very broad, maybe that could really complicate things, combined with

Art. 17 GDPR Right to erasure (‘right to be forgotten’)

  1. The data subject shall have the right to obtain from the controller the erasure of personal data concerning him or her without undue delay and the controller shall have the obligation to erase personal data without undue delay where one of the following grounds applies:
     
    1. the personal data are no longer necessary in relation to the purposes for which they were collected or otherwise processed;

    2. the data subject withdraws consent on which the processing is based according to point (a) of Article 6(1), or point (a) of Article 9(2), and where there is no other legal ground for the processing;

Processing

The term "processing" is very broad. It essentially means anything that is done to, or with, personal data (including simply collecting, storing or deleting those data). This definition is significant because it clarifies the fact that EU data protection law is likely to apply wherever an organisation does anything that involves or affects personal data.

https://gdpr.eu/eu-gdpr-personal-data/
https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/personal-data/
https://www.whitecase.com/publications/article/chapter-5-key-definitions-unlocking-eu-general-data-protection-regulation

Yep, when they make the definition of processing and personal data so broad it can almost be used to anything.

Because let's say that with the combination of 20k posts it can be possible to link some of that info to someone. Age is personal data, nationatily is personal data, even your thoughts could be said to be.

I hope judges are at least sensible in understanding that this site only require a valid e-mail, that doesn't need to reveal anything personal (but yes staff with access to it could do digging to find the person) with national and birth date being there but you can lie about it, nickname can be totally different from any nickname you use anywhere else, so any info given is by own choice and let's say once you tell everyone it isn't private anymore (but that is where the right to be forgotten enters), if someone came and said a lot of bad stuff that could jeopardize job, marriage or even staying out of jail then the law intent would be there.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

JWeinCom said:
Eagle367 said:

Just be unapologetic about your politics. Say whatever you believe about politics and the mods will be forced to permaban you. It doesn't even have to be something offensive, just extremely political. I once got banned for criticizing the US so you can see I'm speaking from experience

You got banned three days two and a half years ago by a mod who isn't a mod anymore. This is also around the time you were making such comments as "I think all muricans are stupid at best and retarded at average and insane at worst". You've said many extremely political things since then, and have not been permabanned, or even regular banned for them. Probably time to make like Elsa and let it go. At any rate complaining about mod actions is against the rules and off topic, so anything further should be via PM.

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

I'm not a lawyer but this could very well be illegal under EU and UK law, and I hope the website admins and owners have considered this, since the site is accessible from Europe

https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rights-citizens/my-rights/can-i-ask-company-delete-my-personal-data_en
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-6-gdpr/
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-9-gdpr/

personally, I believe all this anonymity damages the internet and the society in general, but since anonymity is what we have and on that basis people post, it has to be respected

to be honest I would support a global online identification system anytime - that would decrease hate speech and also safeguard children from harmful exposure to bullying, deception and premature content

Personal data is defined as...

"The data subjects are identifiable if they can be directly or indirectly identified, especially by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or one of several special characteristics, which expresses the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, commercial, cultural or social identity of these natural persons. In practice, these also include all data which are or can be assigned to a person in any kind of way. For example, the telephone, credit card or personnel number of a person, account data, number plate, appearance, customer number or address are all personal data."

I don't think any of this data is provided to VGChartz unless the person posts it voluntarily, and nobody has to provide it in order to use the site. And VGChartz isn't making any data available to my knowledge unless a user posts it. Pretty sure the personal data laws are more for data you provide to a website in expectation it will be private. Otherwise, it would be impossible to comply. If you post something personal, and then someone quotes it in their reply, what exactly can be done? Unless VGC is responsible for somehow scrubbing everything personal you said that might have been quoted.

Not a lawyer either, but I am a law student. I don't really see any liability here. 

Can't defend what I can't remember. Plus I was giving him a suggestion. But your statement is out of context I think. 



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