the-pi-guy said:
Baalzamon said: I'm really not trolling you, you simply don't understand the electoral college.
If our vote was truly decided by POPULATION alone, every election would be decided by popular vote. That is it.
We fortunately do not have a system designed in that way. We have a system designed to utilize population, but ALSO to respect differing opinions among different states that may not have quite as enormous of a population.
Yea, if you win all the most populous votes, you will win the election. But our very election results show exactly what this system means (numerous times in the near past mind you). We do pay heed and care about the lower density areas.
Heck, we even provide the lower density areas with representatives, as different districts get to vote for who represents them, and it once again isn't just decided by the whole population (or else MN would just have 100% liberals elected for other elections as well). |
>We fortunately do not have a system designed in that way.
Nothing fortunate about it. It's an arbitrary decision that your only argument that supports your position is that you are glad because some population that you consider extreme isn't the main decider. In other words your only argument is that it helps you. It is an arbitrary decision.
Someone else could and has made the exact opposite argument and come to the opposite conclusion. And they are equally as right because its arbitrary.
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To initially bring the nation together, compromises needed to be made. You don't get rich and powerful by being a dick and bossing other people around. You get that way by being reasonable and making deals where it's mostly win win. In order to build the nation that exists today, the electoral college was necessary, along with many other things, and still is.
If some administration in the near future was able to do what was necessary to make the change to a strictly pop vote, you can be sure that it would not take all that long for certain states to start to exit. This could end up a major problem, because if all those states who leave, decide to join and create their own country, you can bet they won't exactly be all the friendly to the country who pushed them to leave in the first place. Not like they'll be aggressively hostile, but they sure aren't going to be easy to deal with, and so when it came to efficiency at that point, well, so much for that ideal.
A strictly pop vote will not work for the foreseeable future, because the portion of the pop that will always win that vote, has considerably different views than the rest of the nations voters. It's not like the pop vote would be a vast majority either. The fact that the Presidency has been very equal in terms of party over time, along with the House ending up the opposite mid term, is a good indicator that the system works pretty darn well. Not perfect, but much better than most.
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