Machiavellian said:
KLAMarine said:
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Like I care. If you can refute what I said then do so but if not then continue blindly following this clown show because no one is believing or following your logic. There are a number of articles chroninaling this entire BS so have fun reading them. Hell, here is one that details it for you so you
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/06/politics/fact-check-timeline-of-trumps-alabama-dorian-map-fiasco/index.html
After you finish reading that and dismissing it as I am sure you will, Then ask yourself why 6 days after this clown show began we continue to see more dumb tweets from the President while the storm is hitting NC. Not only are the tweets stupid because he is using outdated maps 3 days older than his first tweet on Sunday or even worst tropical wind maps showing 5% chance of hitting Alabama but he is too stupid to even understand what they mean and is looking even more of an idiot.
The bad part for you KLAMarine is trying to set your flag for Trump on this dumb crap. There is definitely crap Trump gets for being Trump that is BS but this isn't the hill you want to die on for him. Trump will make a fool out of you as you continue down this path as we like to call it "Save a whoe"
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"If you can refute what I said then do so"
>It's like you don't understand what the burden of proof means. It's YOUR job to prove YOUR claims. Your claims, or anyone's claims for that matter, are NOT true by default.
SpokenTruth said:
KLAMarine said:
Provide for me a complete listing of all instances Trump mentions Alabama then. I'm going through his Twitter page right now and not finding much...
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Let me type something for you again from the very post you quoted. "In tweets, to the press, in the Oval Office." If you're just looking at tweets, you're only looking at 1/3rd of the incidents.
KLAMarine said:
I'm a skeptic, I don't just buy mere hearsay but that's all you've provided in this post: hearsay.
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Bullshit. The only thing you are a skeptic of is negative information regarding Trump. But you NEVER show that same skepticism about Trump himself or anything he says.
Skepticism as a virtue is only valid if you aim that skepticism at everything....not just what you want to target. Otherwise, it's just cognitive dissonance.
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"Let me type something for you again from the very post you quoted. "In tweets, to the press, in the Oval Office." If you're just looking at tweets, you're only looking at 1/3rd of the incidents."
>Okay then, let's focus on that 1/3 for now. List for me tweets from the president mentioning Alabama.
"The only thing you are a skeptic of is negative information regarding Trump. But you NEVER show that same skepticism about Trump himself or anything he says."
>Well which of Trump's statements do you feel I should have been more skeptical about? I mean, when Trump says "you see, it was going to hit not only Florida but Georgia. It could have, was going toward the gulf. That was what we, what was originally projected", the "we" part means more than one person. I'm inclined to believe Trump spoke to someone considering he's the president of the United States with an entire presidential administration around him. Is that too farfetched of a belief? That at some point, Trump spoke to someone about the hurricane?
And another thing, Machiavellian made some accusations which were unsubstantiated. I can't not be skeptical about such accusations.
the-pi-guy said:
KLAMarine said:
I have news for you: I'm a skeptic, I don't just buy mere hearsay but that's all you've provided in this post: hearsay.
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Just to hammer this down.
You're not a skeptic. When Trump says something you take it in the best possible light. Even to the point of taking extremely liberal interpretations of words, without a shred of evidence to back up those interpretations. Your skepticism requires evidence too. When you claim that Trump may have talked to someone and that's why he used the word "we", that needs evidence. Making those kinds of comments is the opposite of skepticism.
You're not applying any skepticism towards Trump, instead constantly giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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"When you claim that Trump may have talked to someone and that's why he used the word "we", that needs evidence."
Two things:
1. The word 'may' is important here. This statement is speculative so it may be true or not true. Trump may have spoken to someone and is it a crazy notion that Trump spoke to someone at some point? The man has an entire administration around him.
2. The president's use of the word "we" IS evidence that he may have talked to someone. It's certainly not proof but it is certainly evidence. I trust you understand the difference.