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haxxiy said:

Biden is up by double digits in Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania etc. against Trump, and 5 - 10 in Florida, North Carolina.

Be safe, be smart. Abandon your delusional candidates and worries, and join in Diamond Joe's Cruise to the White House.

... what? Do you want a revolution, instead? Well, bit the bullet and help elect Trump for another four years. There's your revolution, right there.

That's just cowardly.



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Eh I'd probably vote Biden over Trump if it came to it.



haxxiy said:

Biden is up by double digits in Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania etc. against Trump, and 5 - 10 in Florida, North Carolina.

Be safe, be smart. Abandon your delusional candidates and worries, and join in Diamond Joe's Cruise to the White House.

... what? Do you want a revolution, instead? Well, bit the bullet and help elect Trump for another four years. There's your revolution, right there.

I don't think you understand the gravity of this election. If you want to sell out your beliefs and not want anything of substance to change then that's your prerogative but really it isn't the smart or responsible thing to do.



 

tsogud said:
haxxiy said:

Biden is up by double digits in Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania etc. against Trump, and 5 - 10 in Florida, North Carolina.

Be safe, be smart. Abandon your delusional candidates and worries, and join in Diamond Joe's Cruise to the White House.

... what? Do you want a revolution, instead? Well, bit the bullet and help elect Trump for another four years. There's your revolution, right there.

I don't think you understand the gravity of this election. If you want to sell out your beliefs and not want anything of substance to change then that's your prerogative but really it isn't the smart or responsible thing to do.

His views arent that far off from most Democrats. Polls show that most Dems just want things to return to normal sand for the next President to build on Obama's legacy.



Beto has launched his campaign for the third time. TBF to him he was ona . break from campaigning so it makes sense. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/beto-orourke-relaunches-campaign-el-paso-hometown-wake/story?id=64987851



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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/16/bernie-sanders-leads-2020-democratic-field-among-college-students-poll

Bernie Sanders is the clear winner among Gen Z, as much a frontrunner with them as Biden is with the rest of the field.

As for everyone else, a new consensus is forming, at least for people willing to put their money where their mouth is:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/457728-british-bookmaker-warren-has-overtaken-biden-as-favorite-to-win-the

And with poll after poll showing that any of the top 4 could beat Trump, I feel like we do in fact have a choice.



HylianSwordsman said:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/16/bernie-sanders-leads-2020-democratic-field-among-college-students-poll

Bernie Sanders is the clear winner among Gen Z, as much a frontrunner with them as Biden is with the rest of the field.

As for everyone else, a new consensus is forming, at least for people willing to put their money where their mouth is:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/457728-british-bookmaker-warren-has-overtaken-biden-as-favorite-to-win-the

And with poll after poll showing that any of the top 4 could beat Trump, I feel like we do in fact have a choice.

Well that doesnt surpirse me that most college students like Bernie compared to other Dems.

I feel that electability realistically any candidate that Democrats elect stand a decent shot against Trump. Like i saw before that there are 80 million registered democrats but only 55-65m actually show up to vote. It just comes down to getting as much people out as possible. Trump did a good job at this for the Republicans in 2016 by going after the middle class and in the center Obama supporters while Hillary barely had rallies and public appearances compared to Trump.



Doesnt have much to do with the primary ut it deals with the 2020 election and I foudn this interesting. https://www.apnews.com/15bbc35f3c6249db8b348e8694a16334 Strategist are saying that the DNC needs to register 500k people to ensure they can win Florida. Florida has been trending red since 2014. The only two demographics growing there are old white folds and Latino Americans. Republicans do pretty good with old white folks and can usually get 35-50% of the Latino American vote there so they have the advantage there. The Republicans have been going to gun shows to register new voters so I wonder where the Democrats are going to go to get the 500k voters.

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SpokenTruth said:
jason1637 said:
Doesnt have much to do with the primary ut it deals with the 2020 election and I foudn this interesting. https://www.apnews.com/15bbc35f3c6249db8b348e8694a16334 Strategist are saying that the DNC needs to register 500k people to ensure they can win Florida. Florida has been trending red since 2014. The only two demographics growing there are old white folds and Latino Americans. Republicans do pretty good with old white folks and can usually get 35-50% of the Latino American vote there so they have the advantage there. The Republicans have been going to gun shows to register new voters so I wonder where the Democrats are goign to go to get the 500k voters.

Well, if Governor DeSantis would stop blocking the will of the people who voted to restore rights to felons after they have served their time, we'd have about 1.5 million right there.

Florida has only been red because of a messed up law the Republicans pushed years ago that rescinded voting rights to all felons.  the only way to get voting rights restored was a direct plea of redress to the governor and they have rarely granted it.  Now it was voted on by the people and won, overwhelmingly so, to restore voting rights.  But instead of enacting what we voted for, he keeps adding other rules and hurdles.

I remember you brought that up before and was looking into it yesterday. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/reply.php?id=239623&quote=9045508 Vox wrote about it back in November.

Apparently from 2007-2011 voting rights were restored to 150k ex felons. There was no clear partisan divide and a very little amount of them voted. According to their math based on the 2007-2011 stats Democrats would have generated 54k more votes and Republicans 40k more votes which would have not flipped the 2016 election. It would flip the 2018 senate race but the the Governor's one so there's that atleast.

DeSantis should stop blocking it because the amendment was voted on and should be fully enacted but even then it might be hard to gauge how many voters would come out and even harder to figure out how many would vote D.



jason1637 said:

Eh I'd probably vote Biden over Trump if it came to it.

As one should be.

Doesn't change the fact that he's pretty close to last on the wishlist.