Mail-in ballots are a thing though so cancelling a primary just fuels Trump's ridiculous base. You can bet he'll run with this. It's a bad decision, should've just closed the polling places and did mail-in ballots only. The Democrats set a bad precedent with this one.

So what you are saying is that Bernie did not get the same type of reporting as Biden and thus everyone is playing politics.  So as a people, we are to assume Biden is guilty from a 27 year allegation without having it go to any court or properly investigated.  What I see is politics being played on both sides and what you are doing is playing into the same situation.  Unless Reade is willing to take this to court and let it all hang on the line, its a waste of all our time.  We have no way to determine who is telling the truth and coming out 27 years after the fact makes it even more difficult.  

I disagree here for 1 reason and its the same reason you keep bringing up. Evidence. Tara says something, people go digging and find what she said. The more she says the more things that happen that point to it being true. The thing about it too, is that she definitely tried to come out earlier and was shut down multiple times and it only came out because of Ryan Grim, same person who broke the judge story as well. This one has way more evidence as well and it should be taken seriously and go to court etc however my conclusion is that Biden did it. We've seen his behavior around women of all ages so to me, I've seen enough to believe it, but the mainstream is barely reporting on it.

If the mainstream and Metoo etc, took this seriously and treated it like a news story instead of trying to sweep it to the side to protect biden I don't think it would be as big of a deal as it is (or Biden would have been forced to drop out before the primaries started cause she tried to come out before then). You know treat news as actual news? Either way, I get where you're coming from, but in this case and cases like this do normally take a long time to come out due to the power dynamic or never see the light of day btw, I do think that Biden is guilty but obviously that's not my call to make.

So what you are saying is that Bernie did not get the same type of reporting as Biden and thus everyone is playing politics.  So as a people, we are to assume Biden is guilty from a 27 year allegation without having it go to any court or properly investigated.

What I see is politics being played on both sides and what you are doing is playing into the same situation.  Unless Reade is willing to take this to court and let it all hang on the line, its a waste of all our time.  We have no way to determine who is telling the truth and coming out 27 years after the fact makes it even more difficult.  

That's good.

You never answered my question as to whether you live in a swing state, though.

And since you brought them up, let me talk about the GOP and their base for a bit and then I'll be out of your hair.

First off, there's nothing progressives can do about how Republicans vote (well, except try to beat them in elections). How they vote is not our responsibility. It's nigh-impossible for a progressive to ever dissuade a conservative from voting Republican. We can only control how we vote. And for what it's worth, a majority of Republican primary voters did not vote for Trump, and most Republican politicians and pundits endorsed other candidates during the primaries. The only reason they weren't able to force a brokered convention at the RNC was because of the GOP's inconsistent mish-mash of delegate allocation rules (some states are proportional, some are winner-take-all, and some are hybrids of the two), which allowed Trump to gain a majority of delegates despite not having a majority of the popular vote.

But once the primaries were over and the issue of who was going to be the Republican nominee was settled, Republicans rallied around their new leader, the "Never Trump-ers" put on their MAGA caps, and the base was all-in on him. Yes, they too are accountable for Trump being in office. The thing is, that was their intent! They wanted Trump to win. If you tell them "You're responsible for Trump," they'll tell you "And proud of it!" Even if they didn't support him in the primaries, even if they didn't particularly like him, they still cast their vote for him, because they hated Hillary infinitely more and wanted to defeat her. Exit polls consistently show that in every election self-identified conservatives vote third-party at a much lower rate than self-identified liberals do. Their greater tendency to unify and be on the same page on Election Day gives them an advantage, and was enough to be a factor in Trump's victory (it also helps that the GOP base as a whole is more conservative than the Democratic base is progressive). And I know this not just from the data, but from first-hand experience as well. I know a lot of conservatives. They may complain about "RINOs" and even attempt to subject them to primary challenges, but come Election Day they all vote Republican regardless of who the nominee is. They will never operate under the assumption that a Republican that holds a couple of heterodox views on certain issues is "Democrat Lite" and therefore not worth voting for. To them, the difference between the Democrats and Republicans is night and day.

We can talk about which groups did what all day. There's a lot of complexities, and I've tried to make it clear that progressive obstinacy, though a major factor in Republican electoral success, is not the only factor at play. But it's a simple fact of the matter that conservatives are far less willing to vote third-party than progressives are (third-party voters also skew a lot younger and whiter than average). Conservatives are going to far more consistently support a Republican president. According to Gallup, ever since he was inaugurated Trump has enjoyed consistently strong approval ratings among Republicans, even better than Bush did during his second term, and better than Obama's approval rating among Democrats. The reason his overall approval is still in the shitter (something that does give me some hope for this November) is because he is hated by Democrats as much as he is loved by Republicans, and because a fairly large majority of independents don't like him, either. Presidential approval ratings have never been this polarized. And poor approval ratings in the past have not been good signs for sitting Presidents. Every President that had net negative approval ratings ahead of Election Day has lost. If that holds true for Trump, it won't be because his base abandoned him. They are in this for the long haul. Come hell or high water, Trump is their guy, and they are behind him 100%.

That's how conservatives see this issue. They're in it to win it, no matter what. And that's what progressives are up against at the polls. What you do with that information is up to you.

You missed the part where I said "and that's just one example". 

As for the bold part: absolutely. CNN and the gang parroted Elizabeth Warren lies without hesitation. Joy Reid from MSNBC brought on a freaking body expert to and excused Bernie of having a "physicality" about him. Countless other networks and hosts threw their credibility out of the window just because it was a chance to smear Bernie. 

Does this sound like unbiased journalism for you? The accusations against Biden might be lies and fables, but where is the body expert to tell us more about it? Hell, Biden isn't even being asked about Tara. As for the underlined part: no, I never said, but the media coverage has not been consistent, if this was an accusation against Bernie we would've never heard the end of it, it's not even a question, because we have already had examples of it. On the other hand, the MSM are being dragged kicking and screaming to cover Tara's story.

And that's just one baseless non-issue that the Bernie campaign had to deal with. At one point Bernie was in bed with the Russians and that story aired non-stop. Even on issues where Bernie is clearly a winner, he was challenged unfairly, the media hosts have taken it upon themselves to paint M4A as an expensive dream and each time Bernie was on TV the "How are you gonna pay for it?" meme was played, and not a single host bothered to mention that the current system as it is will be more expensive on the long while leaving millions uninsured. 

Bernie lost, everyone is free to vote for Biden, but to pretend that it was a fair game for Bernie is laughable. 

How? And how conservative is your family compared to, say, a conservative Southern Baptist that thinks the Confederate States were the good guys? Also, are you sure that the people you saw while canvassing actually changed their stances on any of the issues (or actually voted for Bernie), or that they were just uncommitted center-right independents? Half of adults don't usually bother voting at all, after all.

I've talked to conservatives until I'm blue in the face and I've never been able to get them to budge on a single issue. Science is a favorite subject of mine, and I figured that it would be easier to convince someone they're wrong on a matter of physical reality than on some abstraction regarding, say, taxes or wages.

Oh, how wrong I was.

I've tried convincing both my father and an acquaintance of mine that global warming is real, and both of them refused to budge. They are dyed-in-the-wool dittoheads who are glued to talk radio and Fox News and are completely and utterly convinced that the Democrats are literal Stalinists (not even joking here), and that the scientists are lying and that global warming is a hoax and a Marxist plot to destroy the economy. And forget about any issue that isn't explicitly about science. My sister is even worse; she's a Trump supporter who never saw a conspiracy theory she didn't agree with (she's anti-vax & anti-GMO, thinks 9/11 was an inside job, believes in FEMA concentration camps, flirts with sovereign citizen ideas, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera). Even with the less militant conservatives I know, what I say just passes through one ear and out the other. They may nod their head or whatever, but next time the issue comes up they still haven't changed their position. I'm from Georgia, so maybe the brand of conservatism around here is more militant than in California.

And that's just people I know. I can't even begin to count the amount of people on the internet I've had that same discussion with. I've gotten to the point where I don't even know why I bother trying to argue with right-wingers about climate. Every single one I encountered had their minds made up that global warming wasn't just wrong, but also a communist hoax.

In my experience, trying to argue with right-wingers is more futile than arguing with a brick wall.

Most rape cases do not have any evidence.  Stats really do not mean anything until we can actually get this taken to court because you really have no clue if this is one of those situations.  I totally agree that making it easier to come forward should be something we seek but if the person does not have the courage, the court of public opinion isn't where it should be judged.  As a father, I have to have these types if talks with my daughter.  What do you do in a situation like this, how do you protect yourself,  How not to put yourself into a situation like this.  How to recognize you are in a situation etc.  Rape is a power accusation because usually a man is considered guilty in most people eyes without going to court.  Even if the person get acquitted, people will still believe something had to happen. This is why its hard to defend against such allegations even if you are innocent because people make up their minds that you are guilty without any thing to go on.  

If the only time we are going to hear about an issue is when a person is seeking power like Trump or Biden, then we need more than that.  Take their asses to court and let all the women come forward with their stories and whatever evidence they have have.  If not then its just a waste of time. 

Prosecutors and Police 100% should take rape accusations very seriously and investigate them to the fullest of there ability.  The problem is when the general public start making a judgement before there a trial is what you saying is it acceptable for the 5% of men who falsely accuse to have there entire life ruined for something they are innocent of.  If society already judge you guilty even if at a later time a jury find you innocent it going to be next to impossible repair that stain on your reputation.

I not sure it so logical and morally right to ruin innocent lives with out first letting the entire process play out.  If am gambling and got a 95% chance to win if the stakes a few hundred bucks I make that bet every time.  If the stakes is my reputation for the rest of my life even if winning would give me a million dollars I probably still not make that bet.  The risk is just too high.

Everyone have to make there own decision in the end what they consider a acceptable level of casualties are.  I just don't think it as clear cut as you make it out to be.