Will be more powerful? Wouldn't a better term be "might" as Anaconda is still a rumour.
How accurate this rumored is compared to the reality | |||
Naah | 26 | 35.62% | |
Its 90% close | 14 | 19.18% | |
it's 80% close | 8 | 10.96% | |
it's 70% close | 5 | 6.85% | |
it's 50% close | 13 | 17.81% | |
it's 30% close | 7 | 9.59% | |
Total: | 73 |
Will be more powerful? Wouldn't a better term be "might" as Anaconda is still a rumour.
HollyGamer said:
From Digital Foundry PS4 pro Test, from Digital Foundry Xbox One X test . Also Radeon VII also able to beat Vega 64 with the same TDP on half size chip but with higher clock speed. Don't forget consoles price is not the same with PC GPU card that selling on the market . We also have news RAM price will go down and GPU price also going down up to 30% next year. |
GCN is limited to 64 CU, so the only way to get Navi faster than that is to clock it faster. To reach 14TFlops almost 2Ghz would be needed, way too much for GCN.
Radeon VII is able to beat the Vega 64, but for this you would need a chip that beats Vega VII while just consuming less then half of it. That's just not feasible short of a wonder on Navi.
And don't worry, I took chip prices in the next year into account when I said it's going to cost twice those 500$ in production. CPU/GPU ( possibly combined in an APU, but I doubt it) alone will not come cheap as their footprint is much higher than on this Gen. The larger the chip, the higher the price, exponentially so in fact. An APU with Zen2 and Navi with 64 CU will be at least around 500mm2 in 7nm, way too expensive to sell for under 400$ a chip (in 2 separate chips a somewhat lower price is possible to get). The APU in the PS4 and the Pro is only around 250mm2, so just one quarter of the size (don't forget it's squared) that the chip in the leak would take, in fact the GPU alone would be larger than that.
Add to this 24GB not-yet-released (and thus more expensive, at least early on) GDDR6 Memory (GDDR6 is based on DDR4 btw), even with the dropping memory prices that will be around another 100$ for sure early on. Add all the other components, assembly and shipping, and you're getting close to 1000$ even without paying consumer prices.
The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing
The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/
Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/
I dont know if any of that is true, but all that sounds believable and somehow expected.
Bofferbrauer2 said:
GCN is limited to 64 CU, so the only way to get Navi faster than that is to clock it faster. To reach 14TFlops almost 2Ghz would be needed, way too much for GCN. Radeon VII is able to beat the Vega 64, but for this you would need a chip that beats Vega VII while just consuming less then half of it. That's just not feasible short of a wonder on Navi. And don't worry, I took chip prices in the next year into account when I said it's going to cost twice those 500$ in production. CPU/GPU ( possibly combined in an APU, but I doubt it) alone will not come cheap as their footprint is much higher than on this Gen. The larger the chip, the higher the price, exponentially so in fact. An APU with Zen2 and Navi with 64 CU will be at least around 500mm2 in 7nm, way too expensive to sell for under 400$ a chip (in 2 separate chips a somewhat lower price is possible to get). The APU in the PS4 and the Pro is only around 250mm2, so just one quarter of the size (don't forget it's squared) that the chip in the leak would take, in fact the GPU alone would be larger than that. Add to this 24GB not-yet-released (and thus more expensive, at least early on) GDDR6 Memory (GDDR6 is based on DDR4 btw), even with the dropping memory prices that will be around another 100$ for sure early on. Add all the other components, assembly and shipping, and you're getting close to 1000$ even without paying consumer prices. |
I've learnt recently that VGC users do not listen, let their disappointment occur upon reveal.
I wish the PS5 had those specs, so that's definitely not gonna happen. A machine with those specs would cost no less than $600 and that would already be heavily subsidized.
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Random_Matt said:
I've learnt recently that VGC users do not listen, let their disappointment occur upon reveal. |
Lol, I just said on the Brexit thread that I will not respond to anymore because he wouldn't listen and that I let him to be disappointed upon Brexit.
But I will always give it a try - I just won't try forever anymore.
The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing
The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/
Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/
Believe it when Sony announce it. "Leaked specs" are always so over-exaggerated
Codename Ariel Helwani? I hope it's not announced until PSX late this year. Q2 2020 release is fine.
A $499 price tag makes sense.
The Ps4 Pro is still a very competent console, and it has still a lot to offer in terms of software (and sales potential for Sony)
The Ps5 should offer a substatial upgrade and should be targeted (at least initally) to high-end users.
Oof $500 hundred dollars is very high, I'll probably wait for the cheaper slim model if this is true.