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kirby007 said:
Shiken said:

If the game was F2P like other games that follow that model, the tier system would not be a problem.  But it is a 60 dollar game so if you like paying for stuff twice, thats on you.  I amnot going to support a game doing it wrong when so many others do it right.

but im not paying twice i get to enjoy the game fully for that 60 euro just like i did for cod2,3 mw1 and 2 ghosts etc

Oh cool, so BO4 has a single player campaign just like those other games, right?



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Shiken said:
kirby007 said:

but im not paying twice i get to enjoy the game fully for that 60 euro just like i did for cod2,3 mw1 and 2 ghosts etc

Oh cool, so BO4 has a single player campaign just like those other games, right?

It has zombie + those minor char missions unlike 2,3 mw, not eveb talking about blackout as bonus. And you knew damn well it didnt have a singleplayer



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kirby007 said:
Shiken said:

Oh cool, so BO4 has a single player campaign just like those other games, right?

It has zombie + those minor char missions unlike 2,3 mw, not eveb talking about blackout as bonus. And you knew damn well it didnt have a singleplayer

It has Zombies, like other CoD games that do have a single player mode.  And the minor character missions are nothing more than multiplayer challenges, but against BOTs with a little bit of voice acting that they shoved in there to say, "hey look!  we have single player!"

 

And sorry, but ONE MAP for an extra game mode does not justify pulling an entire campaign.  What they did was they pulled single player to focus on a system that they could make grindy as hell and add micro transactions for, not at release, but after all of the reviews were made so that there would be no mention of them nor hurt the overall score.

 

I do not care how minor they are, what they did was shady and anti consumer.  They knew damn well what they were planning on doing and the fact that they increased the grind with a patch when the micro transactions were added is proof of that.



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Lets just agree to disagree seeing as i dont feel like i am entitled to every new transmog they put in the game



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kirby007 said:

Lets just agree to disagree seeing as i dont feel like i am entitled to every new transmog they put in the game

If paying 60 dollars for a game that is later altered to increase the grind to encourage me to pay more money to use a system that was already in place when I payed that 60 dollars and feeling cheated when the system I payed for is changed is "entitled", then maybe gamers these days are not "entitled" enough.  I believe the term is bait and switch?

 

Sorry but I believe in getting what I payed for, and that includes the tier system that was in place when I payed said money and being able to utilize it without fear of it being later altered to encourage me to give them more money.  So yeah, we will have to agree to disagree.

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I think Nintendo as a whole is important for the industry as a console that introduces kids to gaming.



Immersiveunreality said:
I think Nintendo as a whole is important for the industry as a console that introduces kids to gaming.

It is very important to make games that are fun for adults while being appropriate for kids.  Nintendo gives us the best of both worlds for sure.

 

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There is an easier strategy if you don't have the cash to make a full blown AAA game.

Release a game exclusive on Nintendo, let all the Nintendo fans make noise how they getting an exclusive.

Then release the next version on PlayStation and watch Sony fans buy it just out of spite to show they are better game collectors lol



 

 

Everything that goes against the crappy trends installed by pure greed driven buisness in the western AAA market should go in the dump ASAP. That's obvious.



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Shiken said:
VAMatt said:

Do you have any evidence that these games lost money?  I've not heard that before.  

We know that Fallout was a disaster, so it might be a safe assumption there.  Maybe we could say the same for Battlefront.  But, the other three, I've not heard anything more than slight rumblings about missed expectations.  That's a far cry from losing money.  

Street Fighter V sold horribly.

 

Destiny 2 had good initial sales and died off very quickly, meaning they lost those who would have purchased their expansions.

 

Battlefield V...looking at the sales of the game, one would have to be pretty naive to think it recouped its production costs, let alone made a profit.

Battlefield V was basically a BF1 reskin, I doubt it had too big of budget. Infact even marketing budget was much less as there werent nearly as many ads compared to 1.

 

not defending EA, just saying that we cant automatically assume it didnt earn money. If it didnt we wouldnt see a sequel.



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