[NA] 30 Million
[EU] 25 Million
[JP] 20 Million
[RoTW] 5 million
This would equal 80 Million, and the RoTW numbers are being super lowballed, just incase I overestimated Europe. Does these numbers seem semi realistic? I find it hard to believe that the Switch couldn't reach this 

When you have certain posters saying Switch will have a lower  LTD than 3DS despite analytics (tracking well ahead, selling on par with PS4 launched-aligned, benign discounts etc;) proving otherwise, it becomes a little suspect. 

Based on your logic, people would be trolling when they said the Wii had no chance of beating the PS2 despite tracking well ahead of it.

And they probably were trolling AT THAT TIME, because Wii was such an abberation, no one could've accurately predicted the trajectory when it was flying off the shelves and out of stock for 3 years. Any notion that Wii would have an abrupt slow down in demand wasn't based on analytics, because there were none. Everyone was caught off guard by Wii in both it's peak and valley including Nintendo. Bad analogy for this particular discussion. 

I promised i will not talk anymore about WW sales for Switch but i want to clear out that i was discussing just TOTAL NUMBER SALES OF 3DS AGAINST NINTENDO SWITCH NOT BEING SO DIFFERENT. That's it. I added too that i prefered talking about asbolute succeses like total sales, because if we start talking about relative success like price points or discounts, then people have subjective opinions on the matter. You can say 3DS had a price cut and that's why it sold so much, so that's why you find Switch surprising and i can say that maybe, even if Nintendo cut the price of the Switch like the 3DS, the console would still selling about the same because Nintendo would not produce more, or as much more to compensate (this is not a thing that actually think, i was just proving a point) or that Switch did so good avoiding cut prices because its 1st party software was so good (and that won't last). You and I can't prove any of those things to be correct or not, but the number of sales are facts, that can't be discussed, and nobody here can deny the fact that at the end of the last quarter, official numbers for Switch and 3DS showed similar number of sales.

So my original post is still true: "I still don't know why people keep saying Switch is tracking way better than 3DS at the moment". What is true though, is that this is a NPD thread and Switch is indeed tracking better than 3ds in the same period of time in USA, but my post was directed to the discussion there was before about Switch lifetime sales worldwide and the comparison with previous Nintendo hardware, specifically 3DS.

I would disagree. Almost all consoles drop off, especially Nintendo consoles. PS2 was the abberation by not dropping off, with a very poor PS3 to back it up late in life.

Unless they looked at the situation differently and considered factors that others didn't consider.

I have said that i do not see the NS doing more than 80M. Which isn't even a bad number anyways. And I have pointed out why I feel it wouldn't. If this somehow makes me a troll or having some sort of weird hidden agenda then thats ok I guess. 

Well I wasn't pointing the finger at any one person particularly, 80m seems like a fair number honestly. But when I read things like 65m and/or selling below the 3DS, it becomes a little suspect IMO where the analytics are coming from. 

I guess it's just a coincidence how it is Nintendo fans who are the most optimistic for Switch's numbers.  Some a little overzealous, IMO (2.5M+ in Dec and 25M+ next FY.)  Strange how that works out.

How about actually adding something constructive to the thread instead of turning it to crap by making some ridiculous point about one fanbase.  Hmm?

I may strongly speak against nintendo, but I am still reasonable and objective nor am I delusional.

Before the NS was released, I used to say that I saw it doing 50M. My argument then was that it will sell more than a typical nintendo home console but less than a typical handheld. I also said it before the NS was released that nintendo were going to kill off their handheld division and focus on the NS the second we found out it was a hybrid. 

After its first year I adjusted my estimates up for the NS from 50M - 65M. Now I am accepting that could also have been low balling it and moved it up t 75M which is about what the 3DS sold. Its fun making predictions based on whatever theories or analysis you are using to support your claims. We all do it. If I am wrong I am wrong. And I will admit to being wrong.