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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 13 October 2018

AJNShelton on 31 October 2018
Nate4Drake said:
zorg1000 said:

Than why did it win last December?

New console.  

This Holiday Season Sony have more powerfull AAA titles to bundle, and more margin on Hardware revenue and can be even more aggressive. You will see.

I don't think there is a more powerful AAA this december than Smash for the US market.



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PortisheadBiscuit on 31 October 2018
Nate4Drake said:
zorg1000 said:

Than why did it win last December?

New console.  

This Holiday Season Sony have more powerfull AAA titles to bundle, and more margin on Hardware revenue and can be even more aggressive. You will see.

So basically you're saying Sony has to give away their hardware to be able to compete with Smash and Pokemon this holiday? Interesting... 



Kerotan on 31 October 2018
Barkley said:
DonFerrari said:

800k on the quarter (12 weeks) revision, so about 75k per week on average, and the difference Switch had was like lower than 30k. So if we really look at it, Switch haven't won a week WW this year as far as I remember.

Easy enough to check, just go through the hardware tool. Switch has won 3 out of 41 weeks according to current VGC figures.

January 6th, Switch won by 0.3k
July 14th, Switch won by 10.2k
July 21st, Switch won by 6.9k

Totals for 2018 up to October 13th:

PS4: 10,453,132
Switch: 8,068,054

Serious domination this year for ps4 

Nate4Drake said:
zorg1000 said:

Than why did it win last December?

New console.  

This Holiday Season Sony have more powerfull AAA titles to bundle, and more margin on Hardware revenue and can be even more aggressive. You will see.

It's crazy. This holiday they have rdr2, god of war, spiderman, bo4 and fortnite which wasn't as big last holiday. Not to mention other titles like bfv, oddessy, detroit and monster Hunter. This year has been generous. A lot of reasons for consumers to buy a ps4 or pro. 

PortisheadBiscuit said:
Nate4Drake said:

New console.  

This Holiday Season Sony have more powerfull AAA titles to bundle, and more margin on Hardware revenue and can be even more aggressive. You will see.

So basically you're saying Sony has to give away their hardware to be able to compete with Smash and Pokemon this holiday? Interesting... 

Yeah give it away in exchange for money. It's how business works. And there's no other console better at it then playstation this gen. Possibly ever. 



PortisheadBiscuit on 31 October 2018
Kerotan said:

Yeah give it away in exchange for money. It's how business works. 

Business also works where profit is more valuable than just revenue.



Kerotan on 01 November 2018
PortisheadBiscuit said:
Kerotan said:

Yeah give it away in exchange for money. It's how business works. 

Business also works where profit is more valuable than just revenue.

And value works where the consumer buys the most of a product which offers it the most. It's why the ps4 is the top seller this gen. It's the best value in the eye of the consumer. 



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PortisheadBiscuit on 01 November 2018
Kerotan said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

Business also works where profit is more valuable than just revenue.

And value works where the consumer buys the most of a product which offers it the most. It's why the ps4 is the top seller this gen. It's the best value in the eye of the consumer. 

Not always, *ahem* Apple... 

Not saying PS4 doesn't offer the most value, but your "philosophy" falls flat if you're talking about consumer products as a whole. 



Kerotan on 01 November 2018
PortisheadBiscuit said:
Kerotan said:

And value works where the consumer buys the most of a product which offers it the most. It's why the ps4 is the top seller this gen. It's the best value in the eye of the consumer. 

Not always, *ahem* Apple... 

Not saying PS4 doesn't offer the most value, but your "philosophy" falls flat if you're talking about consumer products as a whole. 

Not really. Apple make the most money of any phone manufacturer as they offer their consumer base the best value. They target the high end market, they're not interested in being the top seller. 



PortisheadBiscuit on 01 November 2018
Kerotan said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

Not always, *ahem* Apple... 

Not saying PS4 doesn't offer the most value, but your "philosophy" falls flat if you're talking about consumer products as a whole. 

Not really. Apple make the most money of any phone manufacturer as they offer their consumer base the best value. They target the high end market, they're not interested in being the top seller. 

A company like Apple isn't interested in being the top seller? Mmmm okay...



Kerotan on 01 November 2018
PortisheadBiscuit said:
Kerotan said:

Not really. Apple make the most money of any phone manufacturer as they offer their consumer base the best value. They target the high end market, they're not interested in being the top seller. 

A company like Apple isn't interested in being the top seller? Mmmm okay...

Clearly not. Profits > unit sales for them. If they wanted they could sell a shit ton more iPhones at a profit if they took $200 off their price tag. Instead they opt for less sales and huge profit per phone. 



Intrinsic on 01 November 2018
zorg1000 said:
Nate4Drake said:

New console.  

This Holiday Season Sony have more powerfull AAA titles to bundle, and more margin on Hardware revenue and can be even more aggressive. You will see.

New console is such a lame reason, like sales are just going to all of a sudden plummet because this is its 2nd holiday.

This holiday season is a totally different animal though. Last season PS4 had a $199 deal only for a few days and nothing major in the software front outside COD.

This year if they extend that $199 spiderman bundle through the entire season coupled with the game that is going to be on everyones lips RDR2 and crazy discunts on GOW......gotta admit thats a hard combinatioon of factors to beat.

And if there is a big spiderman red logo on that $199 PS4 thats gonna be ahard thing to talk kids out of.