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CaptainExplosion said:
Immersiveunreality said:

And it can take much more time to change for the better but that doesn't mean it's hopeless,i am happy women can drive now cause its a step in the right direction.

Then why are they still having journalists assassinated? It's obvious that's what they did to Jamal Khashoggi. He must've said something that offended the Saudi crown, so they silenced him.

Because a country or state does not change what it is overnight and did not become what it is overnight.

At least we had a positive thing happening and we will see how it progresses beyond that.



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I have to say, Turkey had detained that American Pastor months ago and refused to release him. The timing of is release could not have been more perfect and calculated.



morenoingrato said:
I have to say, Turkey had detained that American Pastor months ago and refused to release him. The timing of is release could not have been more perfect and calculated.

You mean so Erdogan can cover his own ass?



CaptainExplosion said:
morenoingrato said:
I have to say, Turkey had detained that American Pastor months ago and refused to release him. The timing of is release could not have been more perfect and calculated.

You mean so Erdogan can cover his own ass?

You can oversimplify and misinterpret it any way you wish, the fact is such a move will go a long way in  securing American diplomatic support against the Saudis.



How much is freedom of speech worth to the US government? Apparently, 110 billion into the pockets of the military industrial complex is somewhere above that bar for them.

Not to mention the illegal cluster bombing of children in Yemen included in that price.



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Threats against the US by Saudi Arabian Ruler

It seems that MBS did not enjoy when Trump suggested there would be punishment if any action was taken over the assassination.

 

From Bloomberg:

(Bloomberg) — Saudi Arabia will retaliate against any punitive measures with an even “stronger” response, the official news agency reported, in an apparent reaction to U.S. President Donald Trump’s threats to take action over the disappearance of a prominent government critic.

“The kingdom rejects any threats,” the Saudi Press Agency reported, citing an official it didn’t identify.

Saudi Arabian equities slumped as much as 7 percent Sunday on concern over possible U.S. measures.

In an excerpt from an interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes,” Trump added pressure on the kingdom, vowing “severe punishment” should the kingdom’s leaders be linked to the disappearance of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

“The kingdom emphasizes that it will respond to any measure against it with an even stronger measure,” the official said.



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terabaap said:
morenoingrato said:
I don't see how people could remotely defend MBS.
There's the arbitrary arrests in Saudi Arabia, the bloody and brutal war crimes and Yemen and desire for control of the Middle East.

I was disgusted when he did a celebrity tour around the United States and celebrities and educated tech leaders treated him like the second coming of Christ.
Now the world is opening its eyes to who MBS truly is.

West worships money. They’ll treat anyone who’s rich as the second coming of Christ. These new developments won’t change anything.

The whole world worships money not just the west. 



The Saudi royal family have largely been a bunch of barbarians, MBS is no different.



This is what happens to journalists that don't follow the government narrative in dictatorships. While in westers democracies, such jornalists get banned from all mainstream media platforms, whish is bad, but not as bad as in the 1st case.



WolfpackN64 said:
The Saudi royal family have largely been a bunch of barbarians, MBS is no different.

There's a gigantic difference between Bin Salman and past leaders. MBS is speeding the country toward economic ruin like no other before him, assassinating political adversaries, and attacking nations for even the slightest amount of criticism.



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