Yeah, UN's wrong, you're right. Sure. And it's me who's getting my information from Facebook and Whatsapp...

Btw, UN Human Rights said that Lula should be able to run for president as long as it wasn't judged, and that did happen. 

I don't see anyone who agrees with his overall plans and is not voting on him because he doesn't like the "Gay kit" (aka that book he shows everywhere that was never going to be distributed in the first place, aka him lying once again). Nice straw man there, buddy.

Those are literal QUOTES. Not exaggerations. He said those things word for word. Not lies, not exaggerations, quotes.

"His competence on running a country". What competence? Staying 27 years in Congress and approving 2 projects? And proposing other projects that would really benefit society, such as prohibiting trans people to use their social name and reducing maternity leave? Yeah, he seems to be really competent.

He didn't praise the dictatorship for growing economically. He said things like "The ONLY mistake of the dictatorship was torturing instead of killing", he praised Alberto Brilhante Ustra for torturing Dilma, etc.

And btw, Hitler also made Germany grow a lot economically. But you don't see anyone praising him for it because it's stupid as fuck. Of course, if you force people into doing stuff, your country will grow economically. But that's unethical. I'm baffled that I even have to explain this.

The problem is that people murder LGBT people BECAUSE they're LGBT people. And that should be treated differently because it's a different problem from regular violence, despite both involving murders. He talks about security, yes, but he only talks about giving guns to people. Killing, killing and killing. He never comes up with a solution that doesn't involve more violence. Gosh, talk about being narrow-minded...

I'd say the same to you, but I've already noticed that you're not voting for Bolsonaro for what he proposes, but for what he represents. You're not actually interested in his proposals. Since you didn't name any of his proposals that you like, I'll assume that.

I'm not going to argue anymore. This will be my last post on this topic, because it's impossible to discuss with someone that's not interested in facts, but would rather believe in lies as long as they validate their previous beliefs. You've discredited UN and Umberto Eco in favour of your own perception and a YouTuber. I'm out.

Every party right now that want to get somebody elected for the second round elections are distancing themselves from Haddad and PT, and either becoming neutral or giving support to Bolsonaro.

In 2018 PT have become synonymous with corruption.

I really shouldnt be surprised by your views, knowing Brazil, but it still surprises me how follish people can be.

Your first topic:No, the UN Human Rights said that when Lula was already either arrested or convicted in second stance, thus being unable to run.So for the UN to disregard the plain fact that he was a criminal and should run for presedency nevertheless should have raised giant red flags by itself.Plus, its not just me who is saying that parts of UN are more worried about pushing their own agends rather than actually doing their jobs.Many in high positions in the US says that, for example.

On your second point:Wait, you are saying that the Gay Kit was first created by MEC to not be used at all?Like they went ahead and have done a whole project to just say "Nope, we have done this all just because it was fun and it was never meant to be actually put into motion"?Do you really believe that?Oh, and for your information, it was meant to incentive discussion about sexuality in school grounds, with those discussions aimed at young kids.Nice try throwing this under the rug.

Oh, and just a bonus:Never knew that you have talked with 50 million brazillians and each of them said that his overall proposals for the government are not the reason they are voting on him.You do have alot of time in your hands, huh!

On your third point:And he also went on record saying that he dosent hate gays, black people, indigenous people, and all those other stuff people keep saying that he hates.Here is the source:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk2quhx3Rqo

And why he is competent:Again, just go to my previous posts.But Ill just add this:At least he didnt steal anything, broke the country economy or anything like that, like Haddad and PT did.Just saying.

About the fourth point:And what about the people that Dilma killed during that timeframe?The innocent people that had nothing to do with the dictatorship and was killed for no good reason?Not just Dilma, but any other criminal from the period, that claimed they were doing that "for freedom"?Funny thing is, neither of their actions brought democracy back.What did bring it back was through legal effort from the people to bring down the dictatorship, through protests and whatnot.In that aspect I completeley agree with Bolsonaro.While ideally they should have been locked up for life, betwenn torture and execution, they should have gone with execution of those murderers.

And does Hitler have to do with anything here?Yeah, nazism was horrible.I didnt understand what you meant here.Or maybe you mean is that any economical growth that might come from a Bolsonaro govern will innevitally lead to a dictatorship?If so, how the hell did you come to that conclusion?

About the fifth point:Violence is violence.Even if a crime happens because of the hate against homosexuals, what measure that would have to be taken would make it different from an normal crime?Why is violence against a gay person receive a harsher punishment against a heterosexual person, or a black person in the aspect, assuming both crimes meant to harm that person?Violence is violence.Crime is crime.No matter the motive that lead a criminal to doing the things he did, violence is violence.

Unless you want to receive special treatment, but then, in that scenario, the government would be biased against heterosexual people, and that would create a myriad of new problems.A crime is a crime, and it should be dealt as such.

About the sixth point: I approve Bolsonaro for what he represents and proposes.For a better country that anyone and everyone can live their lives and be the best version of themselves.A country that brazilians, from any gender, sexual orientations and color, can be proud of.But I forgot that you knew me as a person and know even better than myself about what I think.I apologize for that!

(FYI, i did say many proposals that I approve from him, but you didnt read any of my previous posts, since they are all there.I cant do nothing if you are lazy)

And sure, its your own prerocattive to run with the tails between your legs.Pray for Bolsonaro to win so that he may garantee that you will still have that choice in the future.

PS: Oh, and about the "giving guns" part.Did you know that Haddad is also talking about of going more easy with guns laws and allowing more leeway with its regulations?Not that he means that of course, he and PT are all snakes, but it really makes you think about that statement of Bolsonaro being a monster for wanting to put guns on the hands of the people....

Well, I wanted to revive this thread because Bolsonaro was just elected. Brazil will, starting at January 1st 2019, be governed by a far-right, homophobic, racist politician that is a fan of the military dictatorship that happened between 1964 and 1985 and of the torturers that acted during it.

Congratulations to the Brazilian people. They chose to move to the future rather than to the past, they chose to be practical and pragmatic rather than emotional, and chose to look after themselves rather than giving in to fears from sheltered elites.

I checked Brazil's recently elected Congress and I doubt he would even get a pass to go after any of his more radical proposals or be able to undermine any democratic institutions.

Not that it matters since you already decided he is a brutal tyrant, and that anyone who supported him is uneducated, a bigot, stupid, or inferior and that Brazil is a 'shithole'.

But apparently he's the problem.

Democracy has won on this day.Now the true battle for Brazil's future actually starts, and I wish all the best of luck to the new brazillian government, for them to make the best possible for the country.

I just hope that, assuming Bolsonaro ends up being a good president by the end of his 4 year run, that you will be able to admit that you were wrong.I will admit that I was wrong if he sucks in the end.

And Haddad has shown support to Cuba, Venezuella and many other dictatorships.

Wanna keep comparing?

Look, he has won.Can we all agree that we wish that he makes the best choices possible and move on with this discussion?

Yes, let's compare. The left-wing dictatorships are bad. But being bad is a staple of Latin American politics and happen across the political spectrum.

Let's look at the results of the recent "conservative wave" and a few former neo-liberal governments on the region, shall we?

Mexico and Colombia: the results of the war on drugs speak by themselves. It started to change for the latter only when the country became more somewhat sensitive to the poverty issue. Now Mexico is going the same path with their new president.

Honduras and Guatemala: two patriotic and conservative parties, now two corrupt governments and coup d'etats.

Peru: coup d'etat on the 90s and now the Fujimoris are on prison, charged with corruption.

Paraguay: it was basically an isolated far-right Venezuela ruled by the Colorado party for decades, right in the middle of the continent. More recently, the former conservative president claimed he wanted to shoot his balls before having a gay son, tried to change the Constitution and be a dictator for life.

Argentina: twice hailed as the Ur-example to South America by the IMF, back in the late 90s and recently again with Macri, now twice bankrupt and in recession.

The future coming to Latin America right there, y'all.

Besides, much like Argentina proves, and the comparison of social indicators from before and after the military dictatorships, shows just how much damage untethered neo-liberalism can cause in the continent. Then it becomes clear why dictatorships were needed, the policies were just that unpopular. Elsewhere, in Asia, for instance, every extreme capitalistic country I can think of, like South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore etc. have been dictatorships or single-party ruled and sponsored by the US as well.

And it's not like Bolsonaro will stop supporting dictatorships, as well, since the agribusiness will still keep selling soybeans to China and chicken to Arab countries. Much like Trump sells firearms to Arabia, money talks the loudest, specially if it's the money of one of his major supporter groups. Hey, much like Bolsonaro says, all this talk of "ideology" belongs to the other side, the lefties...