Nautilus said:
That educational index from UN is really, really fucked up, if they really think those three countries are really that high up in terms of education quality across these countries, just saying.In those type of things, I trust that part of UN as much as UN Human Rights division when they said that Lula should be able to run for presidency because thats "against democracy", when he isnt running because he is a criminal and is in jail because of it(For your information, thats the kind of "Human Rights" Bolsonaro and pretty much everyone is against.A kind of human rights which is only worried to push political agendas) |
Yeah, UN's wrong, you're right. Sure. And it's me who's getting my information from Facebook and Whatsapp...
Btw, UN Human Rights said that Lula should be able to run for president as long as it wasn't judged, and that did happen.
| Nautilus said:
For your third paragraph: Thats the problem with most people that is voting for Haddad.They are not voting on Haddad because they believe in him, think that he is qualified for the job or thinks that his proposals are good.They are voting in him because Bolsonaro "was so mean to say the things he said".They agree with his proposals, his overall plans for the government, but "My god he said that he is against the Gay Kit, so he must really hate gay people and wants to kill them!" so he will vote for the opposition and fuck the consequences.Of course Im simplifying things here, but you get the jist. |
I don't see anyone who agrees with his overall plans and is not voting on him because he doesn't like the "Gay kit" (aka that book he shows everywhere that was never going to be distributed in the first place, aka him lying once again). Nice straw man there, buddy.
| Nautilus said:
About the fourth paragrap:As I have said again and again, all a bunch of exagerations, sentences taken out of context and lies, with a pinch of unfortunate statements.If you wanna better know my opinion, just go back to my previous statements.And if you really feel like all these lies about what he thinks about one thing or another is more important than his competence on running a country, then I gotta say buddy, you have got your priorities on the wrong place. |
Those are literal QUOTES. Not exaggerations. He said those things word for word. Not lies, not exaggerations, quotes.
"His competence on running a country". What competence? Staying 27 years in Congress and approving 2 projects? And proposing other projects that would really benefit society, such as prohibiting trans people to use their social name and reducing maternity leave? Yeah, he seems to be really competent.
| Nautilus said:
About your fifth statement:For all the shitty things that happened betwenn 64 and 85, the country did grew in that period.It grew alot actually.We only have things like Itaipu and a shitload of highways because of them.So whats wrong to praise where praise is due.Not everything is purely evil and has no good in it.Praising that period of time is not approving the regime, nor how they did it to get those results. |
He didn't praise the dictatorship for growing economically. He said things like "The ONLY mistake of the dictatorship was torturing instead of killing", he praised Alberto Brilhante Ustra for torturing Dilma, etc.
And btw, Hitler also made Germany grow a lot economically. But you don't see anyone praising him for it because it's stupid as fuck. Of course, if you force people into doing stuff, your country will grow economically. But that's unethical. I'm baffled that I even have to explain this.
| Nautilus said:
About the sixth paragraph:He talks alot about sexuality because people dont stop pestering him about that topic.Plain and simple.About the social problems you mentioned: of course he cares about them.Thats why he talks about security so damn fucking much.Or do you think that LGTB people are some kind of animals that arent considered as human beings, so that his policies for safety and security will just be applied to a group of people?Murder is murder and violence is violence, and thats it.Gosh, talk about being narrow-minded.... |
The problem is that people murder LGBT people BECAUSE they're LGBT people. And that should be treated differently because it's a different problem from regular violence, despite both involving murders. He talks about security, yes, but he only talks about giving guns to people. Killing, killing and killing. He never comes up with a solution that doesn't involve more violence. Gosh, talk about being narrow-minded...
| Nautilus said:
About your seventh paragraph:Then you better get back to it, because you havent done a proper job at researching it. |
I'd say the same to you, but I've already noticed that you're not voting for Bolsonaro for what he proposes, but for what he represents. You're not actually interested in his proposals. Since you didn't name any of his proposals that you like, I'll assume that.
I'm not going to argue anymore. This will be my last post on this topic, because it's impossible to discuss with someone that's not interested in facts, but would rather believe in lies as long as they validate their previous beliefs. You've discredited UN and Umberto Eco in favour of your own perception and a YouTuber. I'm out.
