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Which of these MOST describes your view?

Women are over-represented in video games. 8 10.13%
 
Women have too much of a ... 4 5.06%
 
Both of the above. 7 8.86%
 
None of the above. I will clarify. Honestly. 60 75.95%
 
Total:79
Pemalite on 03 September 2018
DarkD said:
 E3 is supposed to be about cool video games, it's not a gay pride parade.

Well. You are wrong. - But I wouldn't be against it becoming one to be honest.


TheLegendaryWolf said:
Over-representation or under-representation doesn't matter to me, whether a game is good or not does. In terms of AAA video games, I'd say the representation of women is probably on par with the female audience of those games.

This. I don't care if they had over-representation or under-representation, I am not going to complain about it, I'll play the game and judge it on it's own merits... If the game is good, it's good regardless if it has lots of women in it or not.
If the game is bad, it's going to still be bad.

People are getting offended/upset over every single minutia these days.




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DonFerrari on 03 September 2018
o_O.Q said:

i think attractive women are over represented in games

sexual objectification is rampant in video games

if the devs had any kind of respect for women you would not be able to discern uniquely female characteristics such as breasts or wide hips in female characters

this is the kind of shit that's common in video games and helps to fuel misogyny against women

There are a lot of female devs and the male ones also have mother, sister and daughters to one assume they don’t respect woman. They only are following market needs for the teenager and young adults.



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Lawlight on 03 September 2018

Yes, relative to the percentage of females who are hardcore gamers, yes, women are over-represented in western video games. I think we should do a count - obviously we cannot include games with character creation.



Lawlight on 03 September 2018
o_O.Q said:

i think attractive women are over represented in games

sexual objectification is rampant in video games

if the devs had any kind of respect for women you would not be able to discern uniquely female characteristics such as breasts or wide hips in female characters

this is the kind of shit that's common in video games and helps to fuel misogyny against women

So you’r saying women with large breasts and wide hips should not be represented?



pokoko on 03 September 2018
Lawlight said:

So you’r saying women with large breasts and wide hips should not be represented?

Don't create a false argument.  The person quoted never said anything about large breasts.  He said that you shouldn't be able to discern breasts at all.  That means if you can tell that a female character has breasts then the developer has no respect for women.

"if the devs had any kind of respect for women you would not be able to discern uniquely female characteristics such as breasts"

I think he means that breasts are shameful things that must be kept hidden.  If men see them, they'll instantly hate women.  At least, that's what I gather from his post.



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Dark_Lord_2008 on 03 September 2018
o_O.Q said:

i think attractive women are over represented in games

sexual objectification is rampant in video games

if the devs had any kind of respect for women you would not be able to discern uniquely female characteristics such as breasts or wide hips in female characters

this is the kind of shit that's common in video games and helps to fuel misogyny against women

This is a great post and is the truth! Female characters are added into games to appeal to the nerdy male gamers that spend hours playing video games in their parents basement. Adding the attractive female characters is all about selling more copies of video games to male gamers.



KLAMarine on 03 September 2018

They're certainly over-represented in my game library but that's how I like it.

SpokenTruth said:
"I woman on the battle field is not realistic."

Says the guy getting shot 10 times and still running

It's not like this occurrence is without consequence. In World at War, you get shot 10 times, you'll likely be dead in the game at that point; sooner than that most likely. Two or three shots and you need to take cover to heal.

SpokenTruth said:
while carrying 8 weapons, 5 grenade types, 4 ammo types

I recall less weaponry being carried by your character in WaW.

SpokenTruth said:
never slows down

I recall the 'sprint' ability being limited in WaW.

SpokenTruth said:
never eats, never shits

No time for that when in the middle of battle.

SpokenTruth said:
can fall from 30 feet with no broken bones

I recall WaW having fall damage.

SpokenTruth said:
is a private but can call in a god damn air strike that conveniently happens 5 seconds later...

It's a video game and in a constantly-shifting battlefield, timing is critical. The alternative, minutes of set-up, would be terribly impractical.

SpokenTruth said:
but has a problem with a pair of boobs ruining his authentic, historical experience

Only in a WW1, WW2, or other historical setting. Got no problem with boobs running around in Overwatch or Paladins. As a matter of fact, the girls tend to be my favorite characters; I always play as a girl in Splatoon and just about any other game.



barneystinson69 on 04 September 2018

No, and honestly I don't have an issue with women in a game for the most part. Gamers who shit on games that have women as character leads just because is stupid. BF5 and even MS: Andromeda (a game I actually liked) had poor marketing and seem to try to shove an agenda down your throat. Meanwhile, GOW5 only had fringes of complaints (very small minority of gamers) because Microsoft didn't make a big fuss over the fact the game had a woman as a lead, and honestly I'd think most gamers could give two shits.



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vivster on 04 September 2018
HylianSwordsman said:
vivster said:

@Jaicee
Art and fiction is not and should not be about equal representation so this question is moot.

Calling something over or under represented is suggesting that there is a right amount of representation, which is false.

Within an actual individual work of art, sure, there is no "right" amount of representation. That's absurd. For one, there's no way to measure it, for another, doing so would limit art in absurd ways.

That said, representation in art can matter in the sense that it would be just if everyone had equal access to all artistic mediums, and equitable access to platforms by which to show that art to the world. A woman may have no interest in telling stories about women, may want to make something with an all or mostly male cast for whatever reason, and that's her business. However, if society systematically makes it difficult or impossible for women to make art or distribute art, then the woman will be at an unfair disadvantage to make her art or show it to the world. So how many characters in a work are female, male, black, white, gay, straight, etc. doesn't really matter, it matters that the artist gets to make the art as they see fit, regardless of how closely the demographics of characters in the work match the real world. However, if getting into the industry that makes the art and markets it to audiences systematically excludes people based on things they can't help like their sex or race, that's pretty unfair, wouldn't you say? This doesn't mean that you have to hire female actors, directors, programmers, designers, etc. to meet a quota, it means nothing more than that a world that gives everyone a chance to produce and promote art based on the merits of the art rather than the demographics of the artist is a better world than one that doesn't afford everyone that chance, and if possible, we should work towards making the better world a reality.

That doesn't seem to be describing the reality I see. There is literally nothing preventing women to create and distribute art or games for that matter. No one is barring women to publish their games on steam, no one is barring women from getting a job int the gaming industry. In fact women are even singled out and used to represent games.

The industry is male oriented because the majority of the audience are male. We all know those statistics that claim women are just as engaged in gaming as men but that's simply not true when it comes to the AAA/hardcore market. Women are just on average less interested in gaming and that is fine. Men aren't that interested in the fashion business either while most women don't care very much about cars and so on. That's what we get in our gender obsessed society. If you want to "fix" the gaming industry or any industry for that matter, you have to first fix society and all that gender bullshit that forces people into being stereotypes.



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Mystro-Sama on 04 September 2018

I don't know. It seems like every indie nowadays has a female main character.