SKMBlake said:
Nautilus said:
It has the Mario IP on it, it was supervised by Nintendo and maybe funded by them in some form, even if just in the marketing side.So it is a second party game.
For it to be third party it would need to have zero property from Nintendo(that alkso apllies to the other two) and zero funding from Nintendo, be it financial or otherwise, so it isnt tied to the console.And you certainly wont be seeing Kingdom Battle on the pS4 or Xone.
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"Supervised" not really, they just allowed Ubisoft to use Mario characters but only if Mario can't jump. That's not a real supervision. And "may be funded", well since we don't know about it, and since it's a Ubisoft game, it's a third party title.
And if it was a second party game, Nintendo would talk about its sales in their reports, like they did it with all of their 1st and 2nd party games. But they didn't. Because it's a third party game.
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Davide and his team had to not only keep asking permission for their ideas but also they were given frequent feedback from them.The "not jump" guideline was one of them, but the wacky guns were also another of them.Here is a quote from an article about the game:
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https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/features/mario-rabbids-kingdom-battle-nintendo-switch-making-of-1731582
"While Ubisoft Milan handles the game’s development, Nintendo has played a supervisory role through and through."
“[Regarding the gun] we were the first and biggest filter before reaching Nintendo. The whole presentation of the weapons happened in Kyoto, but before going there we knew that it was the first time Mario was holding a weapon, we knew that it was possibly working only if it was merging well with the tone of voice, the light-hearted kind of aspect," says Soliani. "We used a lot of disproportion to create our weapons, we didn’t want them to look real, but at the same time we wanted the player to understand the function by just seeing the visual. When we arrived [at Nintendo] we had a vision of the weapons that was almost final, and they accepted our intention.”
As for your sales argument, Nintendo dosent need to provide numbers.Nintendo is one of the few companies that, alongside Capcom, does provide quaterly reports on their games performance, and they only report on games that have sold more than 1 million, are in the top 10 best selling software(that they own), or had an exemplary performance.The difference betwenn first party and second party games is that there is an additional developer involved with the game.So even if Nintendo has some sort of rights over that game, they will most likely respect the other developer wishes over if they want, or not want to, release the numbers.
And I mean, the game has Mario on the game.Mario.Not only him, but Peach, Luigi, Yoshi, Bowser and so on.Nintendo properties.How can someone see that and think its a third party game(in another words, that Nintendo had zero involvement or zero rights over it), is head scratching.