o_O.Q said:
the fact of the matter is that his policies were socialist from the very beginning, regardless of the original poster's thoughts on the matter |
A brief read of Wikipeda suggests that their economic policy was highly nationalistic, but usually opposed to left-wing policies. I mean, if you define "socialist policy" as "the policy of increasing the national authority to dictate economic activity, while still leaving it to private entities that play along with national goals," and if you say socialism has nothing to do with workforce collective bargaining etc., then I think we just plain disagree on the definition. Now, of course I recognize that Wikipedia is not 100% reliable, but please tell me what of the following quotes you believe is incorrect or misleading, especially but not limited to the bolded:
"In spite of their rhetoric condemning big business prior to their rise to power, the Nazis quickly entered into a partnership with German business from as early as February 1933. That month, after being appointed Chancellor but before gaining dictatorial powers, Hitler made a personal appeal to German business leaders to help fund the Nazi Party for the crucial months that were to follow. He argued that they should support him in establishing a dictatorship because "private enterprise cannot be maintained in the age of democracy" and because democracy would allegedly lead to communism.[50] He promised to destroy the German left and the trade unions, without any mention of anti-Jewish policies or foreign conquests.[218] In the following weeks, the Nazi Party received contributions from seventeen different business groups, with the largest coming from IG Farben and Deutsche Bank.[218] Historian Adam Tooze writes that the leaders of German business were therefore "willing partners in the destruction of political pluralism in Germany."[48] In exchange, owners and managers of German businesses were granted unprecedented powers to control their workforce, collective bargaining was abolished and wages were frozen at a relatively low level.[219] Business profits also rose very rapidly, as did corporate investment.[220] In addition, the Nazis privatised public properties and public services, but at the same time they increased economic state control through regulations.[221] Hitler believed that private ownership was useful in that it encouraged creative competition and technical innovation, but insisted that it had to conform to national interests and be "productive" rather than "parasitical".[222] Private property rights were conditional upon following the economic priorities set by the Nazi leadership, with high profits as a reward for firms who followed them and the threat of nationalization being used against those who did not.[223] Under Nazi economics, free competition and self-regulating markets diminished, but Hitler's social Darwinist beliefs made him retain business competition and private property as economic engines.[224][225]"
I gathered from the article that the Nazi Party might perhaps have been founded with socialist ideals, but that they took a hard right turn before they gained power, allying with reactionary groups etc. One striking example of this argument can be found in the person of Otto Strasser, a left-leaning Nazi who was party leader until 1926 when Hitler won the leadership from him. By 1930 he was kicked out of the party. From Wikipedia: "The Nazi Left itself was annihilated during the Night of the Long Knives in 1934 – in which his brother was killed"
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