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Forums - Sales Discussion - July 2018 NPD: Switch #1, Octopath Traveller #1 software, UPDATE

Miyamotoo said:
Replicant said:

I think Lawlight's point is that Switch needs strong sales now if it's as front loaded as other Nintendo consoles.

We can only speculate whether Switch will peak early or not so let's just be happy that it's selling great right now.

No, I know whats his point and his point was simply downplaying Switch success, also his point dont make sense, his point is that PS4 is selling better "even in its 5. year" than Switch  (so he sound like PS4 has bad sales in its 5. year and that Switch cant beat even that) despite point is like you wrote that PS consoles usually picking in later years and that in this case we talking about one of best PS4 years. Also Switch is not usual Nintendo console, its hybrid that will most likly have similar life span like handheld with multiply revisions (similar to 3DS), even Nintendo said they aiming that Switch has longer life span than usual home console life span of 6 years.

Oh, never mind then.



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Replicant said:
Miyamotoo said:

It stands because this year will be best or second best year in US for PS4. Its also stands because we again talking about one of best PS4 years, so saying "Switch finally winning a month against a 5-year old system" losing point because we talk about one of best PS4 years, so Switch is battling against one of best PS4 years not worst one like you sounded. If talk about same period sales, Switch is selling on pair with PS4.

I think Lawlight's point is that Switch needs strong sales now if it's as front loaded as other Nintendo consoles.

N64 (2nd year peak)
Launch: 1996
Peak: 1998

Gamecube (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2001
Peak: 2003

Wii (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2006
Peak: 2008

Wii U (1st year peak)
Launch: 2012
Peak: 2013

3DS (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2011
Peak: 2013

Switch (? year peak)
Launch: 2017
Peak: ?

 

On the contrary, PS consoles have all peaked in their 4th or 5th year with the exception of PS2.

PS1 (4th year peak)
Launch: 1994
Peak: 1998

PS2 (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2000
Peak: 2002

PS3 (5th year peak)
Launch: 2006
Peak: 2011

PS4 (4th/5th year peak)
Launch: 2013
Peak: 2017/2018

 

We can only speculate whether Switch will peak early or not so let's just be happy that it's selling great right now.

I'm curious about what the peak years were for some of their handhelds, since Switch is filling in for both. GBA wasn't around too long, so DS and 3DS.



Medisti said:
Replicant said:

I think Lawlight's point is that Switch needs strong sales now if it's as front loaded as other Nintendo consoles.

N64 (2nd year peak)
Launch: 1996
Peak: 1998

Gamecube (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2001
Peak: 2003

Wii (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2006
Peak: 2008

Wii U (1st year peak)
Launch: 2012
Peak: 2013

3DS (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2011
Peak: 2013

Switch (? year peak)
Launch: 2017
Peak: ?

 

On the contrary, PS consoles have all peaked in their 4th or 5th year with the exception of PS2.

PS1 (4th year peak)
Launch: 1994
Peak: 1998

PS2 (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2000
Peak: 2002

PS3 (5th year peak)
Launch: 2006
Peak: 2011

PS4 (4th/5th year peak)
Launch: 2013
Peak: 2017/2018

 

We can only speculate whether Switch will peak early or not so let's just be happy that it's selling great right now.

I'm curious about what the peak years were for some of their handhelds, since Switch is filling in for both. GBA wasn't around too long, so DS and 3DS.

GBA I believe was 2003 which would be year 3.

DS I think was 2008 or 2009 so year 4 or 5.

3DS was 2013 so year 3.



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Medisti said:
Replicant said:

I think Lawlight's point is that Switch needs strong sales now if it's as front loaded as other Nintendo consoles.

N64 (2nd year peak)
Launch: 1996
Peak: 1998

Gamecube (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2001
Peak: 2003

Wii (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2006
Peak: 2008

Wii U (1st year peak)
Launch: 2012
Peak: 2013

3DS (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2011
Peak: 2013

Switch (? year peak)
Launch: 2017
Peak: ?

 

On the contrary, PS consoles have all peaked in their 4th or 5th year with the exception of PS2.

PS1 (4th year peak)
Launch: 1994
Peak: 1998

PS2 (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2000
Peak: 2002

PS3 (5th year peak)
Launch: 2006
Peak: 2011

PS4 (4th/5th year peak)
Launch: 2013
Peak: 2017/2018

 

We can only speculate whether Switch will peak early or not so let's just be happy that it's selling great right now.

I'm curious about what the peak years were for some of their handhelds, since Switch is filling in for both. GBA wasn't around too long, so DS and 3DS.

I don't know about older handhelds but if zorg is right about Game Boy Advance and DS that would be:

Game Boy Advance (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2001
Peak: 2003

DS (4th/5th year peak)
Launch: 2004
Peak: 2008/2009

3DS (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2011
Peak: 2013



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I think I messed up with the PS2 peak.

According to this, it peaked in 2003 so a 3rd year peak.



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Replicant said:
Medisti said:

I'm curious about what the peak years were for some of their handhelds, since Switch is filling in for both. GBA wasn't around too long, so DS and 3DS.

I don't know about older handhelds but if zorg is right about Game Boy Advance and DS that would be:

Game Boy Advance (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2001
Peak: 2003

DS (4th/5th year peak)
Launch: 2004
Peak: 2008/2009

3DS (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2011
Peak: 2013

3DS launch in Q1 2011, how is 2013 year 2? Same with GBA it launched in Spring 2001 so 2003 would be year 3.



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zorg1000 said:
Replicant said:

I don't know about older handhelds but if zorg is right about Game Boy Advance and DS that would be:

Game Boy Advance (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2001
Peak: 2003

DS (4th/5th year peak)
Launch: 2004
Peak: 2008/2009

3DS (2nd year peak)
Launch: 2011
Peak: 2013

3DS launch in Q1 2011, how is 2013 year 2? Same with GBA it launched in Spring 2001 so 2003 would be year 3.

Good point. When a console launches in Q1 that year is of course its first.

I don't know as much about the handhelds. I guess time will tell whether Switch peaks early or late(r).



Replicant said:
zorg1000 said:

3DS launch in Q1 2011, how is 2013 year 2? Same with GBA it launched in Spring 2001 so 2003 would be year 3.

Good point. When a console launches in Q1 that year is of course its first.

I don't know as much about the handhelds. I guess time will tell whether Switch peaks early or late(r).

The way I see it Switch should peak next year (year 3) if Nintendo releases the games that are supposed to come out (mainline Pokémon alone should be worth 2 megahits combined like Zelda and Mario).



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