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pokoko said:
DonFerrari said:

You think it's absurd he put Obama as Demon. Likewise would be absurd for a 5y old to be in the military in Brazil torturing.

And there were also someone saying left wing doesn't make fakenews, and other saying that they don't go as crazy as right people... so I put the info together.

Okay?  It's also absurd that whales can't move their eyes.  I fail to see your point.

If ban for spouting non-sense about public people is good, why only happening in mass for one side of the field?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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LiquorandGunFun said:
he is a dumbass, but the right to free speech doesnt stop at someones feelings.

there needs to be significant repercussions for these shit headed companies.

The only kind of repercussions possible are a boycott of these companies by people pissed about Jones.

There is no right guaranteed in the Constitution to being a member of a social media platform. 

Social media companies, however, do have strong constitutional guarantees against government retaliation, and part of their free speech is the right for them to gatekeep their services.

Their playground... their rules.  Full stop.



DonFerrari said:
pokoko said:

Okay?  It's also absurd that whales can't move their eyes.  I fail to see your point.

If ban for spouting non-sense about public people is good, why only happening in mass for one side of the field?

My guess would be the danger each side poses.  I don't think anyone has been assaulted because of a report by The Young Turks.  One Sandy Hook family has had to move 6 or 7 times and the whole Pizzagate incident were all because of Alex Jones and Info Wars.  A police officer in Indiana was killed by Jones fans who posted they were inspired by him to do it. He advocates for a second civil war.  He's called for the FBI to snipe Obama and Clinton.  He's asked the military to physically round up the left with extreme force. He said Sanders supporters should have their jaws broken. He suggested that someone should put bullets into Wolf Blitzer's head.  He told Trump to go on the offense and physically harm his opponents.

 

But you  know....professing socialism, or something, is apparently just as bad.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

The free market has spoken, I don't know why rightwings would be mad about that



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DonFerrari said: 
pokoko said: 

Okay?  It's also absurd that whales can't move their eyes.  I fail to see your point.

If ban for spouting non-sense about public people is good, why only happening in mass for one side of the field?

I never said he should be banned for it, though?

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SanAndreasX said:
LiquorandGunFun said:
he is a dumbass, but the right to free speech doesnt stop at someones feelings.

there needs to be significant repercussions for these shit headed companies.

The only kind of repercussions possible are a boycott of these companies by people pissed about Jones.

There is no right guaranteed in the Constitution to being a member of a social media platform. 

Social media companies, however, do have strong constitutional guarantees against government retaliation, and part of their free speech is the right for them to gatekeep their services.

Their playground... their rules.  Full stop.

Right. If anything else, right wingers should be all for private entities being private.

Also nice avi.




chapset said:
The free market has spoken, I don't know why rightwings would be mad about that

The free market is people not listening to him by their own choice, not that choice being taken away from them.

The free market is people not going to the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie due to the directors tweets, not him being fired. Or going to the movie cause they don't care about his "jokes" 5 years ago.

The free market is people quit watching Roseanne due to her tweet, not her show being cancelled. Or people continuing to watch the show because people don't care about her "joke" on twitter.

The free market is people quit shopping at a bakery because it refused to sell to a gay couple. Or people still shopping at that bakery because they support that bakeries decision or don't care.

That is the free market working. The free market is NOT people being fired, stores being forcibly closed or people being banned. If I walk into work today and give my boss the middle finger and I get fired, that is not an example of the free market.



irstupid said:
chapset said:
The free market has spoken, I don't know why rightwings would be mad about that

The free market is people not listening to him by their own choice, not that choice being taken away from them.

The free market is people not going to the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie due to the directors tweets, not him being fired. Or going to the movie cause they don't care about his "jokes" 5 years ago.

The free market is people quit watching Roseanne due to her tweet, not her show being cancelled. Or people continuing to watch the show because people don't care about her "joke" on twitter.

The free market is people quit shopping at a bakery because it refused to sell to a gay couple. Or people still shopping at that bakery because they support that bakeries decision or don't care.

That is the free market working. The free market is NOT people being fired, stores being forcibly closed or people being banned. If I walk into work today and give my boss the middle finger and I get fired, that is not an example of the free market.

No, the free market is a private enterprise creating and enforcing their own policies.

Technically a free market is a system that doesn't employ government controls and regulations.

The free market is absolutely nothing you just said.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

If ban for spouting non-sense about public people is good, why only happening in mass for one side of the field?

My guess would be the danger each side poses.  I don't think anyone has been assaulted because of a report by The Young Turks.  One Sandy Hook family has had to move 6 or 7 times and the whole Pizzagate incident were all because of Alex Jones and Info Wars.  A police officer in Indiana was killed by Jones fans who posted they were inspired by him to do it. He advocates for a second civil war.  He's called for the FBI to snipe Obama and Clinton.  He's asked the military to physically round up the left with extreme force. He said Sanders supporters should have their jaws broken. He suggested that someone should put bullets into Wolf Blitzer's head.  He told Trump to go on the offense and physically harm his opponents.

 

But you  know....professing socialism, or something, is apparently just as bad.

BLM have certainly caused a lot of violence and damage. Are they banned? I see more they going to TV and defend their point than they losing platforms.

Several of the pages from left wing in Brazil defend violence against police, death to a political oponent, kill middle class, etc. None of them were banned from these platforms. Or in this case you'll see they aren't really endangering anyone?

pokoko said:
DonFerrari said: 

If ban for spouting non-sense about public people is good, why only happening in mass for one side of the field?

I never said he should be banned for it, though?

So are you against his banning and think these companies are acting backwards to what the propose as being public spaces with freedom of speech? From your posts I couldn't see that.

irstupid said:
chapset said:
The free market has spoken, I don't know why rightwings would be mad about that

The free market is people not listening to him by their own choice, not that choice being taken away from them.

The free market is people not going to the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie due to the directors tweets, not him being fired. Or going to the movie cause they don't care about his "jokes" 5 years ago.

The free market is people quit watching Roseanne due to her tweet, not her show being cancelled. Or people continuing to watch the show because people don't care about her "joke" on twitter.

The free market is people quit shopping at a bakery because it refused to sell to a gay couple. Or people still shopping at that bakery because they support that bakeries decision or don't care.

That is the free market working. The free market is NOT people being fired, stores being forcibly closed or people being banned. If I walk into work today and give my boss the middle finger and I get fired, that is not an example of the free market.

God forbid you discriminate some minority because that would be free market.

And some here think that free market is big conglomerates bending to SJW and some ruckus.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

numberwang said:

Where are the advocates for a free and open internet now?

Alexander Emric Jones aka Alex Jones the Infowarrior has been banned from nearly all important media platforms in a coordinated strike on the same day.

Facebook, Apple, YouTube and Spotify ban Infowars' Alex Jones

All but one of the major content platforms have banned the American conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, as the companies raced to act in the wake of Apple’s decision to remove five podcasts by Jones and his Infowars website.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/aug/06/apple-removes-podcasts-infowars-alex-jones

Remember when the scam called net neutrality (government FCC control over the internet) was preached by Google, YouTube, Apple to guarantee a free internet for all?

I predict that supporters of net neutrality are going to defend this.



Explain to me what this has to do with a free and open internet? They had accounts on privately owned sites, of course the owners can shut their accounts down if they want to. This isn't even related to the issue of net Neutrality.