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jason1637 said:
Aura7541 said:

Well, this is an interesting development... The mental gymnastics that you had to perform to conclude that overgeneralization of people of a certain race is not racism must be quite something. But hey, I guess overgeneralization is not a form of prejudice or discrimination.

Black people like chicken. 

Asians like fish.

White people like pizza.

Those are all overgeneralizations but not racist.

 

The generalisation itself may not be racist.

But if you repeatedly only generalise about 1 group, rather than generalising about everyone and anyone, it IS an indication that you're trying to reduce that group to 1 general image. Which is always used as a justification for treating an entire group in 1 particular way, rather than judging people as individuals.

That's always where this leads.



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Well, her spelling mistake says it all. She's a twit on "Twiter."



Even if the Tweets are meant as a joke, they are still very disgusting and not even funny. I doubt these were all intended as a joke though if they date back all the way to 2013. We can be more lenient on racism towards white people but I don't think we should just handwave it away or applaud it like some people do. We shouldn't be okay with racism even towards the white people.



jason1637 said:
Aura7541 said:

Prove it, don’t just assert it and call it a day. Saying “white people are bullshit” and describing white people posting on the internet as “Dogs pissing on fire hydrants” are racist. Those are demeaning and dehumanizing over-generalizations. If I were to describe any other race the same way as she did, I would receive a lot of backlash, too.


contestgamer said:

replace the word white with black, reread tweets and tell me its not racist.

*Blah. Blah. Do as we say, not as we do.

Fixed.

You're doing alot of mental gymnastics to come to these conclusions. She wasn't telling any jokes. She was saying sexist and racist remarks in a hateful manner. The papa johns owner and a netflix higher up had to quit over discussing racism in a civil manner that offended a handful of people. Yet here we are. This is only showing who actually cares about actual racism, sexism and equality. If this is what considered progressive, they can keep that shit.



Jesus people are just throwing around the word racism so casually. Everyone have a different opinion of the definition what racism is, and people need to stop calling other people racists, it's a very cruel word to call someone. The odds that this woman is a racist is basically 0%.

Usually it was mostly just leftist and hippies using the word and now right-wingers joining too, why? Stop being a bunch of babies.

And seeing trump-supporters here and on twitter calling her a racist is hilarious, it's like wtf????



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Wow!



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jason1637 said:
Replicant said:

I know you tend to do this to put yourself in the center of controversial topics but still..

So this is not racism?
Dumbass fucking white people
oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men
#CancelWhitePeople
white men are bullshit

What about this?
Dumbass fucking black people
oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old black men
#CancelBlackPeople
black men are bullshit

She was making jokes and counter trolling so if she directed it at Blacks it wouldn't be racist. It would still be in bad taste but not racist.

Oh, please. Those tweets are as bad as they come.

Not a single person could say the things below in public without getting fired. Not one.

Dumbass fucking black people
oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old black men
#CancelBlackPeople
black men are bullshit



jason1637 said:
You guys can distinguish what's is real and what are jokes. That's just sad! I'm done with this thread.

One or two tweets to make fun of her harassers would be fine. Hundreds of tweets during a period of several years is not. She keeps bringing up her hatred whenever she feels like it. Even when it's completely irrelevant, she still tries to mention how much she hates white people. Some of her tweets can't even be interpreted as a joke in any possible way.

Btw, even in mid 2016 she still tweeted this:



Smartie900 said:
DonFerrari said:

Só mocking and comparing because of political difference is worse than purê hate against all white and or men? Fantastic.

Nowhere did I insinuate that hate against white people and men was acceptable. Jeong said some incredibly regrettable shit that shouldn't be accepted in our society and used vitriolic hate to target a large majority of America. That type of behavior isn't acceptable, but she's grown up since than and she's attempting to move on from her mistakes. 

Here's her statement:

"I engaged in what I thought of at the time as counter trolling. While it was intended as satire, I deeply regret that I mimicked the language of my harassers. These comments were not aimed at a general audience, because general audiences do not engage in harassment campaigns. I can understand how hurtful these posts are out of context, and I would not do it again."

That statement might be intended to save her reputation, but its evidence of a person who's matured since the incident and is trying her hardest to not repeat the same mistakes she previously made.

I also think calling Roseanne's statements political mockery is somewhat short sighted. She compared a woman of color to an ape, apologized for her statement, took back her apology, and continued to mock this specific person while trying to underexaggerate her mistakes. I don't have a problem with political commentary and  think its somewhat justifiable to make fun of someone for their political actions. I do not think its justifiable to make a racist statement and then try to humanize yourself for the consequences you faced for making that racist statement. She hasn't learned anything and the amount of support that she's gotten from groups of people will ensure that she'll never mature.

Sorry if I don't take seriously when someone "appologize" only when get caught. And even more when this "appology" is "I didn't think that, I just mimicked my attackers".

I could bet if it was against black woman and the person a white guy he would be fired at the minute. Unless of course he was a friends with the movements.

And sorry but comparing someone doesn't matter the color to a monkey or ape doesn't make the person racists. Japanese compare one another to monkey all the time. I call my son monkey. And if the lady had facial features akin to a monkey she was the monkey not she being black ment she was monkey and dumb. Those are reaches on "the black people decides when it is racism".



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

And if she was answering personal insults with personal insults (racist or not) it's very different than someone trolling her specifically and she giving back racist generic answer.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."