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quickrick said:
Shaunodon said:

Which PS4 exclusives run at 60fps?

last of us, GOW aims for 60fps on pro, second son does as well, uncharted 4 is 60fps in multiplayer. ps4 cpu is complete garbage though, and ps5 is likely a 10x jump, expect to see most games have a performance options running at 60fps.

So none of them. Cool.



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Shaunodon said:
quickrick said:

last of us, GOW aims for 60fps on pro, second son does as well, uncharted 4 is 60fps in multiplayer. ps4 cpu is complete garbage though, and ps5 is likely a 10x jump, expect to see most games have a performance options running at 60fps.

So none of them. Cool.

gt sport does, but i'm not sure what it has to do with ps5, all those games mentioned would run at 60fps, if consoles weren't being held back by crappy cpu's.

Last edited by quickrick - on 27 June 2018

quickrick said:
Shaunodon said:

So none of them. Cool.

gt sport does, but i'm not sure what it has to do with ps5, all those games mentioned would run at 60fps, it consoles weren't being held back by crappy cpu's.

Anyone remember when 60fps was the buzz term being thrown around start of this gen?

I 'member.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-last-of-us-remastered-devs-discuss-making-60fp/1100-6421147/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-uncharted-ps4-is-1080p-targeting-60fps/1100-6420305/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/getting-uncharted-4-to-run-at-60fps-really-f-king-/1100-6425090/

https://www.n3rdabl3.com/2014/07/naughty-dog-set-objective-ps4-games-1080p-60fps/

Result: 30fps



Shaunodon said:
quickrick said:

gt sport does, but i'm not sure what it has to do with ps5, all those games mentioned would run at 60fps, it consoles weren't being held back by crappy cpu's.

Anyone remember when 60fps was the buzz term being thrown around start of this gen?

I 'member.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-last-of-us-remastered-devs-discuss-making-60fp/1100-6421147/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-uncharted-ps4-is-1080p-targeting-60fps/1100-6420305/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/getting-uncharted-4-to-run-at-60fps-really-f-king-/1100-6425090/

https://www.n3rdabl3.com/2014/07/naughty-dog-set-objective-ps4-games-1080p-60fps/

Result: 30fps

The Last of Us does run at 60. It's just another case of developers prioritizing graphics over framerate. The PS4 Pro can't offer 60fps options for most titles because while it is upclocked the CPU is still garbage.



Barkley said:
Shaunodon said:

Anyone remember when 60fps was the buzz term being thrown around start of this gen?

I 'member.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-last-of-us-remastered-devs-discuss-making-60fp/1100-6421147/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-uncharted-ps4-is-1080p-targeting-60fps/1100-6420305/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/getting-uncharted-4-to-run-at-60fps-really-f-king-/1100-6425090/

https://www.n3rdabl3.com/2014/07/naughty-dog-set-objective-ps4-games-1080p-60fps/

Result: 30fps

The Last of Us does run at 60. It's just another case of developers prioritizing graphics over framerate. The PS4 Pro can't offer 60fps options for most titles because while it is upclocked the CPU is still garbage.

The Last of Us is a PS3 game.



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Shaunodon said:
Barkley said:

The Last of Us does run at 60. It's just another case of developers prioritizing graphics over framerate. The PS4 Pro can't offer 60fps options for most titles because while it is upclocked the CPU is still garbage.

The Last of Us is a PS3 game.

Boy you’re getting real technical right now lol. It’s no big deal to most people. Run God Of War, TLOU, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Everybody’s Golf, etc. in “60fps” mode and they’re all smooth as hell. Not to mention nearly everyone of those games (save for Everybody’s Golf) are considered gaming achievements. The fact that XBOX One X and “True 4K” did absolutely nothing to quell the PS4’s dominance proves that a great game running at 30fps beats an average game running at 60fps. While I do prefer 60fps over higher resolution it’s obvious that I’m in the minority on that note. 



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Shaunodon said:
Barkley said:

The Last of Us does run at 60. It's just another case of developers prioritizing graphics over framerate. The PS4 Pro can't offer 60fps options for most titles because while it is upclocked the CPU is still garbage.

The Last of Us is a PS3 game.

I don't really understand the tangent you're going on. You responded to someone saying next gen most games would be 60fps with - "which PS4 exclusives are 60fps". It doesn't make sense, he's not talking about this gen, and he's not talking about just exclusives.

You're also not actually making any point, just throwing out information that you could use to make one but then doing nothing with it.


GT Sport is the only 60fps AAA exclusive for the PS4 I'm aware of, that isn't a remaster.



Shaunodon said:
quickrick said:

gt sport does, but i'm not sure what it has to do with ps5, all those games mentioned would run at 60fps, it consoles weren't being held back by crappy cpu's.

Anyone remember when 60fps was the buzz term being thrown around start of this gen?

I 'member.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-last-of-us-remastered-devs-discuss-making-60fp/1100-6421147/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-uncharted-ps4-is-1080p-targeting-60fps/1100-6420305/

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/getting-uncharted-4-to-run-at-60fps-really-f-king-/1100-6425090/

https://www.n3rdabl3.com/2014/07/naughty-dog-set-objective-ps4-games-1080p-60fps/

Result: 30fps

You can see developers already trying to add a performance mode  in  many games, you just don't seem to understand how big the jump is in CPU power in ryzen compared to what's in home consoles now. Making a performance mode in nextgen will be be a walk in the park with that CPU.   

Last edited by quickrick - on 27 June 2018

FentonCrackshell said:
Shaunodon said:

The Last of Us is a PS3 game.

Boy you’re getting real technical right now lol. It’s no big deal to most people. Run God Of War, TLOU, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Everybody’s Golf, etc. in “60fps” mode and they’re all smooth as hell. Not to mention nearly everyone of those games (save for Everybody’s Golf) are considered gaming achievements. The fact that XBOX One X and “True 4K” did absolutely nothing to quell the PS4’s dominance proves that a great game running at 30fps beats an average game running at 60fps. While I do prefer 60fps over higher resolution it’s obvious that I’m in the minority on that note. 

I'm not sure why you're including anything on PS4 Pro, since that's a different console than what people bought originally, and I'm only referring to the PS4.

Great games running at 60fps will always be my preference:

Barkley said:
Shaunodon said:

The Last of Us is a PS3 game.

I don't really understand the tangent you're going on. You responded to someone saying next gen most games would be 60fps with - "which PS4 exclusives are 60fps". It doesn't make sense, he's not talking about this gen, and he's not talking about just exclusives.

You're also not actually making any point, just throwing out information that you could use to make one but then doing nothing with it.


GT Sport is the only 60fps AAA exclusive for the PS4 I'm aware of, that isn't a remaster.

What reason should I have to believe any future game developed for PS5 will make 60fps?
If the claim was that all PS4 titles that get ported to PS5 will be locked 60fps, that might be more believable. I also don't care about other games that might hit 60fps that I'll be playing on PC anyway.

Edit: I should mention even though it doesn't affect me, 3rd party games hitting 60fps is still important.



Shaunodon said:
FentonCrackshell said:

Boy you’re getting real technical right now lol. It’s no big deal to most people. Run God Of War, TLOU, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Everybody’s Golf, etc. in “60fps” mode and they’re all smooth as hell. Not to mention nearly everyone of those games (save for Everybody’s Golf) are considered gaming achievements. The fact that XBOX One X and “True 4K” did absolutely nothing to quell the PS4’s dominance proves that a great game running at 30fps beats an average game running at 60fps. While I do prefer 60fps over higher resolution it’s obvious that I’m in the minority on that note. 

I'm not sure why you're including anything on PS4 Pro, since that's a different console than what people bought originally, and I'm only referring to the PS4.

Great games running at 60fps will always be my preference:

 

I think that’s almost everyone’s preference. But most people won’t skip a great game locked at 30fps. Unless in their mind a feature that’s most games don’t have (60fps) is the most important thing in gaming. Which I don’t think would be wise for a gamer. 



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